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re: Shams bomb: Pels trade CJ, Olynyk, future 2nd for Jordan Poole, Bey and 40th pick

Posted on 6/24/25 at 2:39 pm to
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
25780 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 2:39 pm to
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Wizards Poole


Last year was his 2nd best of his career. He was pretty solid on a bad team.
Posted by AD23
Lab
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 6/24/25 at 2:39 pm to
this is doing what Mac has been preaching he wants the team to do. take on negative assets, rehabilitate their image, then flip them for value. jordan poole is still young. his contract really isnt that insane compared to the landscape of the nba. if he improves, you can get some value for him. we werent winning anything next year. i love the deal.
Posted by PELsu
Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 6/24/25 at 2:39 pm to
We gave up $44 million in additional free space next offseason, and got the worse on court basketball players for this season in my opinion. Do we really think Poole and Bey are better than CJ and Olynyk?

I think that’s where I fall on this trade.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
42913 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 2:40 pm to
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Last year was his 2nd best of his career. He was pretty solid on a bad team.


I get that but Warriors Poole had them thinking about benching Steph there for a New York minute
Posted by spaghettioeauxs
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2017
2790 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 2:41 pm to
This is the first trade the Pels have made since Boogie that I actually liked. Poole is better than this aged version of CJ. I liked Olynyk though, I would have tried to hold onto him.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
42913 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 2:41 pm to
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We gave up $44 million in additional free space next offseason, and got the worse on court basketball players for this season in my opinion. Do we really think Poole and Bey are better than CJ and Olynyk?

I think that’s where I fall on this trade.


Meh Poole will be an expiring next offseason so in the same situation as CJ this year.
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 6/24/25 at 2:42 pm to
Who do you think we're signing with cap space? They're going to have to have some money on the books to flip. This is what they should be doing while there's no looming big contracts to worry about.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103114 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 2:44 pm to
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Herb, Poole, Murray, Hawkins, Reeves, Boston, and Bey.. Somebody's gone, not enough minutes


Hopefully Hawkins.
Posted by Dantheman504
N/A
Member since Jun 2013
5813 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 2:45 pm to
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WERE NOT TRADING ZION FOR THE 100th TIME JESUS CHRIST


Well we don't have many ways to get better now besides the draft and that isn't enough to win a championship in the next few years...

We would have to trade Murray/ Herb to now upgrade any position or pray that both of them and poole are playing all star level basketball WHILE praying that we don't have the worst center rotation in the NBA.

Or we trade Zion.

I will say that the Murray/ Herb for Sabonis rumors would make this make more sense.
This post was edited on 6/24/25 at 2:48 pm
Posted by PELsu
Member since Oct 2021
1709 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 2:45 pm to
Cap space is king for all teams right now. So many good teams are at or over different aprons. We could have easily gotten to actual max cap space under the cap if we wanted. There were any number of results better than Poole and Bey at that point.
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
12852 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 2:46 pm to
Cap space is king for apron teams. Not small market teams that won't touch the apron.
Posted by Pistol44
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2019
2298 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 2:46 pm to
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Hawkins and Reeves are just guys at this point. They should not be considered in minutes rotation


I'll include Boston with Hawkins, Reeves all looking for 20 minutes. Expect 2 or 3 for sure to be on the move.
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
55807 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 2:47 pm to
I just don’t see Zion being on this team long. Like I’ve said before I’d be shocked if our main core is still here. Maybe Trey stays but Zion, Herb, Murray are probably gone as well as Poole and Bey within 2 seasons. We’re getting closer towards another rebuild phase
Posted by PELsu
Member since Oct 2021
1709 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 2:47 pm to
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Cap space is king for apron teams. Not small market teams that won't touch the apron


I don’t even know what you mean by that.
Posted by higgsBoson
Democratic Party
Member since Jan 2012
1593 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 2:47 pm to
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Cap space is king for all teams right now. So many good teams are at or over different aprons. We could have easily gotten to actual max cap space under the cap if we wanted. There were any number of results better than Poole and Bey at that point.


This doesn’t make sense to me as a way to get cap space savings. 6 mil in one year but significantly increase next year? Doesn’t feel worth it. Unless their plan is to just trade Poole next year as an expiring. Maybe he’ll have more value? I don’t really get it.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
78503 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 2:49 pm to
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Cap space is king for apron teams. Not small market teams that won't touch the apron.

Well having cap space allows us to get assets from teams trying to avoid the 2nd apron.
Posted by AD23
Lab
Member since Jun 2012
1381 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 2:49 pm to
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This is the first trade the Pels have made since Boogie that I actually liked. Poole is better than this aged version of CJ. I liked Olynyk though, I would have tried to hold onto him.




it's a forward thinking move. kind of a breath of fresh air, even if you don't love the player, you have to be a fan of the idea. if it doesn't work out, what do we lose? an additional season of cap space? no FA is coming here willingly.
Posted by spaghettioeauxs
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2017
2790 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 2:52 pm to
The Poole and Zion P&R could feed families if Poole’s shot is falling consistently. This team hasn’t had a play making PG in a long time.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
42913 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 2:59 pm to
I have a strong feeling the Pelicans are probably trying to package Herb and DJM for another starter and keep 7
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103114 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 2:59 pm to
Who is taking Murray coming off an Achilles tear?
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