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re: Rondo a possibility?

Posted on 6/24/12 at 7:36 pm to
Posted by Suntiger
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Posted on 6/24/12 at 7:36 pm to
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they get deron we get rondo i'd be throwing fecal matter at oncomming traffic in celebration





I don't see ho we could get Rondo without trading Davis or Gordon. They could get a much better, more established, player for Rondo. And they don't need to clear a space and get a pick for DWill. I'd think they'd rather trade Rondo for Gordon or Joe Johnson or Gasol or somebody to help lure DWill to Boston.

What about a three way trade? Rondo to NOLA, K. Irving & #33 to Boston and J. Jack, Lewis, Bass and #10 to Cleveland. Rondo to NOLA, Howard to Boston, #10, #21 & #22 to Orlando?
Posted by tehchampion140
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Posted on 6/24/12 at 7:38 pm to
Neither Cleveland nor Orlando would do these trades.
Posted by Suntiger
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Posted on 6/24/12 at 7:47 pm to
I'm just trying to think of a possible three way trade scenerio. And who knows what Orlando would do. They need to trade Dwight yesterday.
Posted by Hank Marducas
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Posted on 6/24/12 at 7:50 pm to
Don't think CLE makes that deal, but that may be the best deal ORL could get for Howard. They would truly be rebuilding and with the depth in this draft class, that could be a really good deal for them.
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
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Posted on 6/24/12 at 7:51 pm to
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Gordon's injuries can make or break this team's future. How can people not realize that?




I'm not as troubled by Gordon's injuries. He hurt his wrist (I think), and last season he had a lingering knee issue that doesn't seem to have been that serious. Certainly not as serious as CP3's.

quote:

If a good deal comes along, I have no problem moving Gordon.


I don't either, but the deal has to be REALLY good. Rondo and mediocre draft picks don't necessarily do it for me.
Posted by aswemajor
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Posted on 6/24/12 at 7:55 pm to
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Gordon's injuries can make or break this team's future. How can people not realize that?



I'm not as troubled by Gordon's injuries. He hurt his wrist (I think), and last season he had a lingering knee issue that doesn't seem to have been that serious. Certainly not as serious as CP3's.



Gordon wasnt really hurt. He was out 3 months for a 2-3 week surgery because we were tanking.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 6/24/12 at 7:59 pm to
He wouldn't have played at all if that were the case
Posted by THRILLHO
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Posted on 6/24/12 at 8:01 pm to
There's no way Gordon would sacrifice future earnings (which is exactly what happened this year) to help the Hornets tank.
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 6/24/12 at 8:06 pm to
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Rondo and mediocre draft picks don't really do it for me


The thing with this draft is that from pick 6 or 7 to about 20 beauty is in the eye of the drafter. If the picks were Houston's, and the Hornets board is as tightly packed as everyone assumes, it would be tempting to get Rondo and then 2 players you still like a lot.
Posted by WorldsGreatest
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Posted on 6/24/12 at 8:07 pm to
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tehchampion140

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So you don't want the Hornets to become title contenders?

of course I do, but with some PG other than Rondo
quote:

Fearthehat0307

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WorldsGreatest = CP3LSU25 alter

no, but I really HATE Rondo man
Posted by 1ranter1
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 6/24/12 at 8:15 pm to
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K. Irving & #33 to Boston and J. Jack, Lewis, Bass and #10 to Cleveland. Rondo to NOLA, Howard to Boston, #10, #21 & #22 to Orlando?


So Clevland gives up Irving for Jack, Lewis, Bass, and the 10th pick.

Orlando gives up Howard for the 10th, 21st, and 22nd pick.

I can't believe you actually thought that this was a good deal as you typed this out (not to mention you have two teams getting the 10th pick)
This post was edited on 6/24/12 at 8:16 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 6/24/12 at 8:17 pm to
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He hurt his wrist (I think), and last season he had a lingering knee issue that doesn't seem to have been that serious. Certainly not as serious as CP3's.


-Groin 20 games in 2009
-Wrist 26 games the next season
-knee 57 games last season

He's only been in the league for 4 years.

is it more concerning when someone has proven to be injury prone with multiple injuries, or to just have 1 lingering injury?


quote:

I don't either, but the deal has to be REALLY good. Rondo and mediocre draft picks don't necessarily do it for me.



Im not saying actively trade him. But Rondo is probably as best as they are going to do. Not many players are available that are of his caliber.
Posted by MinnesotaTiger
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Posted on 6/24/12 at 8:24 pm to
Trading a stud SG for a stud PG makes no sense regardless - especially if you throw in the 10th pick in the draft (likely another starter for cheap for the next 4 years).

SGs >>>>>> PGs. Nobody argues this.

Why the frick would anybody want to do that?

Lewis and the #10 is the only incarnation of this possible trade that makes sense for the Hornets, and that makes no sense for Boston - Rondo is definitely young enough for them to rebuild around.
This post was edited on 6/24/12 at 8:27 pm
Posted by Hank Marducas
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Posted on 6/24/12 at 8:27 pm to
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I can't believe you actually thought that this was a good deal as you typed this out (not to mention you have two teams getting the 10th pick)

That's because it's two separate deals.
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 6/24/12 at 8:27 pm to
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is it more concerning when someone has proven to be injury prone with multiple injuries, or to just have 1 lingering injury?




I really don't know. As unlikely as it may seem at first, multiple, relatively minor injuries really could be nothing more than bad luck. There's no connection between a groin strain and a sprained wrist. I don't necessarily buy into the theory that the guy's body is somehow more fragile. But, hey, I could be wrong.

I just know he's shown flashes of brilliance. And I'd love to have him for, say, 65-70 games a season. Again, I'm not totally against trading the guy for a really good deal. I'm just not sure that Rondo is the deal I would want.
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 6/24/12 at 8:35 pm to
No possibility
Posted by Fearthehat0307
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Posted on 6/24/12 at 8:35 pm to
quote:

Rondo a possibility?
quote:

rondo
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No possibility
well that settles that from rondo himself
This post was edited on 6/24/12 at 8:36 pm
Posted by tehchampion140
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Posted on 6/24/12 at 8:41 pm to
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 6/24/12 at 8:44 pm to
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Why the frick would anybody want to do that?



because you have a young guy that is never healthy who by default have to attempt to build your team around?

that's not scary to you? no red flags?


quote:

SGs >>>>>> PGs. Nobody argues this.



depends on who were are talking about

in this case a world champion PG vs an oft injured SG
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/24/12 at 8:51 pm to
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a world champion PG
a currently banned hornets talk poster once told me that rondo had to play with 3 hall of famers to get a ring
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