Players’ union expects no fans at NBA games during 2020-21 season

Total lunatics

Some of you all are truly fricking stupid

Bet if I checked your post history you thought it would be gone by the summer as well?

Judging from the protests, it is gone. No one gives a shite about this anymore except for purely political purposes.

The estimated mortality rate has dropped to now .246% and is probably going to be even lower.

No one cares.

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Bet if I checked your post history you thought it would be gone by the summer as well?

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Well Bronc it probably depends on what definition of "gone" you chose to apply. In the beginning we were told we need to "flatten the curve." That has been done for some time.

Now--even though we are seeing further evidence the death rate is about 0.2% instead of 3% like we were told--certain people are taking the approach we need to completely eradicate the virus (instead of flattening the curve). That, quite simply, is lunacy.

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Well Bronc it probably depends on what definition of "gone" you chose to apply. In the beginning we were told we need to "flatten the curve." That has been done for some time.

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Take out New York and NJ and the country has not done that. Many places, like Florida, never flattened their curve and are now seeing record hospitalizations and positive testing percentages. Same goes with Texas.

Also not sure where people are getting this revisionist death percentage from? I’m guessing some one-sided sourcing looking at testing numbers and estimates of infection, ignoring completely the problem of excess deaths and undercounting?

US:
2018 Flu/Pnuemonia deaths: 59120
2018 Feb 1 - May 31 Flu/Pneumonia deaths: 22,908
2020 Feb 1 - June 6 Flu/Pneumonia deaths: 112,235 ( 90% increased from the entire year of 2018, 390% increased from the same period in 2018
Excess deaths from 2018 Feb-May: 89,327
Official COVID-19 deaths: 94,371

Texas up to June 6:
2018 Flu/Pnuemonia deaths: 3516
2018 Feb 1 - May 31 Flu/Pneumonia deaths: 1229
2020 Feb 1 - June 6 Flu/Pneumonia deaths: 5886 (67% increased from the entire year of 2018, 379% increased from the same period in 2018)
COVID-19 Pneumonia: 673
Official COVID-19 deaths: 1545


Florida up to June 6:
2018 Flu/Pnuemonia deaths: 3091
2018 Feb 1- May 31 Flu/Pneumonia deaths: 1181
2020 Feb 1 - June 6 Flu/Pneumonia deaths: 6301 (104% increased from the entire year of 2018, 433% increased from the same period in 2018)
COVID-19 Pneumonia: 1180
Official COVID-19 deaths: 2262


Same trend we see with heart failure. Deaths greatly in excess of past years in which correlate to trends with Covid. More people may have been infected than once thought, more people are also dead from COVID than official numbers suggest.

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Your stats are from your arse

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They are from the Centers for Disease Control, the CDC.

Based on dozens of studies from large sample sizes of asymptomatic and symptomatic people.

It is significantly less deadly than originally feared.

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They are from the Centers for Disease Control, the CDC.

Based on dozens of studies from large sample sizes of asymptomatic and symptomatic people.

It is significantly less deadly than originally feared.

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Show me the paragraph and data where they have successfully dug through the excess death numbers I just listed, contextualized and factored those into their analysis? Nursing Homes? At home deaths?

You won’t, because that work will be ongoing for years but it is not hard to see what the data suggests.

EDIT: Also, FYI, .2% fatality rate(which is not accounting for excess deaths properly), assuming half the population becomes infected at some point due to no longer giving a shite, equals 350,000 Americans dead. Meaning almost tripling our current death total.

K.

Everyone has a choice. We are adults in an allegedly free land. If we want, we can take the risk of getting infected by a largely weak virus, we can.

If others can go to gather by the thousands at the protest of whatever political cause they deem reasonable, the rest of us should be able to gather for whatever we deem fit. It’s not up to the government to pick and choose.

You can stay at home. No one is going to stop you.

Regardless, 2 different vaccines will be entering phase 3 in July. Meaning they can then be approved for compassionate use at that time and should be available for the general public by October at the absolute latest, assuming the trials are successful.

The world will be fine. I imagine this will definitely all go away on November 5.

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What more do you want?

Citizens did what they were asked to not overload hospitals, and it succeeded.

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Tell that to places like Arizona:
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Taking reasonable steps as we reopen, backed by the science we have: masks, social distancing, shelter-in-places when things get back out of control in certain areas(as Oregon and Utah just did but Texas and Florida refuse).

I love the NBA, but we can survive one season without fans in seats out of a rightful abundance of caution if some miracle vaccine is not around and in sufficient capacity by next season.

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when things get back out of control in certain areas(as Oregon and Utah just did but Texas and Florida refuse).

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Things aren't out of control in Texas, again, what are you talking about?

A spike in cases anyone any bit rational knew was coming but hasn't even remotely put a dent in ICU bed capacity in Texas? Is that what you're talking about?