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re: Pels vs Lakers: Well well well

Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:14 am to
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
79377 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:14 am to
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Really feel like we need to make some trades and not give Willie this itch to play so many guys. In return it’ll give more minutes to Jose, Dyson


Trade Hayes and a 2nd or a Bucks 1st (glorified 2nd) for a decent bench shooter.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:14 am to
Graham should be firmly planted behind Jose/Dyson in the rotation and should be used exclusively as an off ball movement shooter and secondary connector/ball mover.

He should never, ever, ever be running a half court set, dribbling out possessions late in the fourth, or taking off dribble threes…never, ever. And that is on Willie for continuing to allow it to happen.

shite needs to stop

I just also don’t understand why he refuses to use Jose? He was better at every facet of basketball tonight but he just treats him like a bastard step child and punished him even when doing great
This post was edited on 11/3/22 at 12:16 am
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
56001 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:15 am to
We need to trade Graham as well. He’s done decent with us. But Jose is just better, dyson will be better. They both need more consistent minutes every game and Graham gets in the way of that
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
21959 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:16 am to
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Trade Hayes and a 2nd or a Bucks 1st (glorified 2nd) for a decent bench shooter.



This is a classic fan trade. We'll give you our garbage for someone decent.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
79377 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:17 am to
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This is a classic fan trade. We'll give you our garbage for someone decent.



A bucks pick isn't garbage for a bench shooter.

But by all means, go off king.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43135 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:17 am to
Our fricking reporters just let Willie off the hook.

Man needs to start answering some real fricking questions.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
26040 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:17 am to
Yeah Jose does a lot of things very well but when he's 6/8 and gta's lebron you HAVE TO LEAVE HIM IN
Posted by 3PieceSpicy
Metairie
Member since Jan 2021
7834 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:17 am to
Recap of end of quarters tonight

Q 1) Give up a Buzzer beater wide open corner 3 to Ryan

Q 2) Give up a 12-0 run in last 2 mins, including a wide open Buzzer Beating 3 to Walker

Q 3) Grab the lead and then immediately give up a 6-0 run in the last 90 seconds

Q 4) Give up a Buzzer beating 3. Multiple tactical errors leading to that basket

OT) Down 3 with 15 seconds left. CJ who is shooting 20% from 3, hero balls a heavily guarded 3 with a good defender draped all over him. Ball is rebounded with 5 seconds left. Nance and Zion decide to call it a game and not foul to extend the game.

We lost the game by 3, but lost the last 1-2 mins of each quarter by a combined 20 points or so.
This post was edited on 11/3/22 at 12:18 am
Posted by TigerinKorea
Member since Aug 2014
8865 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:18 am to
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20 points 16 boards for AD


A lot of Zion’s misses were because of AD. He was lights out on defense.
Posted by jmcwhrter
Member since Nov 2012
7728 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:18 am to
Just got to watch Ryan's 3..

What the frick was Trey Murphy doing!?
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
79377 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:19 am to
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OT) Down 3 with 15 seconds left. CJ who is shooting 20% from 3, hero balls a heavily guarded 3 with a good defender draped all over him. Ball is rebounded with 5 seconds left. Nance and Zion decide to call it a game and not foul to extend the game.



I'm not getting on CJ for this. He was the only one on the floor who I would trust to shoot the 3. Trey was seeing ghosts on the perimeter all night.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43135 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:21 am to
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Trey was seeing ghosts on the perimeter all night.


Facts.

Dude refused to send it with an open look.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:21 am to
With Kira also in the wings Graham is simply redundant and Willie’s inability to recognize him as a liability makes it addition by subtraction

Bundle him with Jax and maybe a couple seconds and get on the phone with one of these overachieving tank teams and identify a good 3 and D wing or a Kelly Olynyk or something.
Posted by 3PieceSpicy
Metairie
Member since Jan 2021
7834 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:22 am to
My main issue is CJ is shooting the ball like trash

We had 15 seconds left. Could’ve scored a 2 and played the foul game

Willie could’ve called a timeout and drew up a play

CJ going 1 on 1 on Pat Bev is a terrible idea

I’d rather Zion take his flat footed wide open set shot 3 than that
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
79377 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:23 am to
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With Kira also in the wings Graham is simply redundant and Willie’s inability to recognize him as a liability makes it addition by subtraction



Graham is better than Kira.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112648 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:25 am to
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With Kira also in the wings
is he in the wings? Not sure about that
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:25 am to
That’s not the point

We have zero need with CJ/Jose/Dyson/Kira/Naji/Trey for an 11 million dollar undersized chucker and mediocre defender that can’t grasp how to play within himself and not tank possessions. That our coach has an unhealthy infatuation with giving unearned minutes to
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112648 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:26 am to
Not a fan of moral victories but we just played hands down our worst game of the season down 2 starters and the Lakers arguably played their best(maybe 2nd best) , and it took a minor miracle for them to get the W.
Posted by jmcwhrter
Member since Nov 2012
7728 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:26 am to
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Willie could’ve called a timeout and drew up a play



I've yet to see this happen
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
79377 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:27 am to
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That’s not the point



Then why bring up Kira to point out Graham's redundancy at all?

At least one of them can catch and shoot. My point is that, based on what you said, if it came down between having Graham on this roster or Kira, I'm taking Graham despite that meaning more money on the books.
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