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Posted on 2/20/26 at 9:14 pm to
Posted by Balsamic_duck
Member since Jun 2017
4445 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 9:14 pm to
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Not trading Herb at the deadline was just astronomically stupid


People need to realize that herb is a bad contract now. He’s been hurt and shooting like shite for two straight years while no longer being an elite defender. And he turns 28 before next year

He has a 3 year 66 million dollar contract that doesn’t even START until 27-28. No team is touching that shite with a 10 foot pole
Posted by SaintTigerPel
LaPlace
Member since Dec 2017
1607 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 9:14 pm to
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Not trading Herb at the deadline was just astronomically stupid


Herb is so vastly overrated on this forum, it’s crazy. I’m sure injuries played a part in it, but he has regressed defensively and somehow gotten even worse offensively.
Posted by iykyk985
Member since Dec 2025
200 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 9:26 pm to
People, we are living through, the worst trade in the NBA since the old New Orleans Jazz traded away the draft rights for Magic Johnson for Gail Goodrich.

Why?

Despite the directive from upstairs, Derek Queen is virtually unplayable, and his athleticism suggests that this will always be the case.

Posted by Dinky Mulberry
Member since Aug 2021
2355 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 9:30 pm to
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Not trading Herb at the deadline was just astronomically stupid


I'm gonna guess the Pels couldn't get as much as they wanted at the deadline...and expect a much better offer...come draft night.
Posted by SaintTigerPel
LaPlace
Member since Dec 2017
1607 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 9:32 pm to
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People, we are living through, the worst trade in the NBA since the old New Orleans Jazz traded away the draft rights for Magic Johnson for Gail Goodrich.



The trade was bad, but it’s not even the worst in 2025. The Luka trade was.
Posted by Balsamic_duck
Member since Jun 2017
4445 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 9:33 pm to
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Despite the directive from upstairs, Derek Queen is virtually unplayable, and his athleticism suggests that this will always be the case.


Yep. Look he showed a ton of flashes on offense this season but the defense is like the worst in the entire league. Center is the most important defense position in basketball and Queen is an unathletic 6’9 center. Like wha do you even do with that? Because you sure as shite can’t ever start that player.

You basically have to play Queen as a 6th man Point Center of the bench to get any value out of him. You just pray to god you can out score the other team while he’s on the court
Posted by iykyk985
Member since Dec 2025
200 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 9:37 pm to
At least in the Luka trade, it was Hall of Famer for Hall of Famer. But Gail Goodrich for Magic Johnson?
Posted by Stamps74
Member since Nov 2017
1522 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 1:33 am to
Playoff roster
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11360 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 1:50 am to
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Yep. Look he showed a ton of flashes on offense this season but the defense is like the worst in the entire league. Center is the most important defense position in basketball and Queen is an unathletic 6’9 center. Like wha do you even do with that? Because you sure as shite can’t ever start that player.


Queen has incredible talent. But he needs a ton of work, along with the right system and coach. I believe he can be a perennial all-star level 20+/10+/5+ type of player. But he could also flame out quick.

This offseason he needs to keep losing fat and add strength. Work with a movement specialist to get faster. He's only 21 and can drastically improve his biomechanics. He needs to play PF full-time next year, and we need to find the best fit at Center next to him. I really like Missi, and think the pair of them can work in the right system. But it takes the right system and coach to make that right.
Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
6295 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 5:58 am to
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Agreed. Borrego is much better than Willie but the Pels still need an upgrade


What upgrade is out there (even if you were delusional enough to think Dumars could locate) that would want to come here?

We get the crumbs it’s part of being a poverty franchise.
Posted by nicj4
Guadeloupe
Member since Jan 2020
776 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 7:46 am to
If you put Queen PF, what about Zion ?
I read the latter did 31 matches in a row (a record).

Maybe the moment to trade Zion ?

Posted by jmcwhrter
Member since Nov 2012
7959 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 1:13 pm to
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Herb is so vastly overrated on this forum, it’s crazy. I’m sure injuries played a part in it, but he has regressed defensively and somehow gotten even worse offensively.


Another player that got WAY overhyped thanks to that Phoenix playoff series
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
5874 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 2:13 pm to
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that Phoenix playoff series


In hindsight . . . Paul George getting covid and missing the play in game against the Pels really set off a chain reaction that coaxed the Pelicans into a decade of delusion filled mediocrity.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11360 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 4:54 pm to
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you put Queen PF, what about Zion ?


Zion is not a PF or a big in this league. He is a wing that refuses to shoot. Having him and Jones, plus any Center that can't shoot just doesn't work. We need wings/guards that can shoot around Queen (and possibly Missi).

quote:

Maybe the moment to trade Zion ?



I literally would have cut Zion before this season. You can fact check my posts on this. I would have got rid of him many years ago. So if they can get something for him, then all praise to them. But I am beyond ready to move past that chapter of our franchise history..
Posted by jmcwhrter
Member since Nov 2012
7959 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 6:28 pm to
That game earned us an entire season of Larry Nance getting his shite pushed in at the end of games instead of Jonas who was very consistent in his role..

Because, you know, "you gotta fight!"
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