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re: Pels v Blazers: that Zion guy is pretty good

Posted on 2/17/21 at 10:54 pm to
Posted by Spaniard
Madisonville
Member since Apr 2011
751 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 10:54 pm to
Most of this team is way too comfortable with losing
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 10:55 pm to
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Lonzo had been shooting well from 3 and was open, I won’t


Except that he was 1-6 in the second half...
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22780 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 10:55 pm to
You are asking Lonzo to create a scramble play with 9 seconds left. You are asking to not get a shot off at all. At the point BI passed out there wasn’t much of a good opportunity other than passing it to the corner on his side. He could have dribbled in and shot, but you lose potentially a put back opportunity.

I think he should have not been set up so deep; however, he stepped into it on a panic pass out by BI.

Stan screwed up with his second half rotations. I don’t understand why other coaches can seem to play players longer than we do every game. Sometimes we need our best players to play long.

BI really hurt the team by not facilitating and moving the ball more.
Posted by Pelliveli
Member since Jun 2015
1012 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 10:56 pm to
THIS! The only players with winning resumes are JJ and Adams and neither one of those players are good enough to dictate the morale of the entire team. It either has to be the best players or more dogs than puppies in the locker room
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
22096 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 10:56 pm to
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BI fricked the play up. Y’all hate Lonzo so much you are using him constantly as the scapegoat.
This. This fanbase is borderline insane when it comes to Lonzo.

Stan and BI fricked that whole situation up, but we have to figure out a way to make it about Lonzo.

Meanwhile that Lonzo 3 was probably the best look we could've gotten out of that bullshite SVG drew up.
Posted by DirtyE
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2008
2506 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 10:57 pm to
Well the 1 was a huge 3 with a minute and a half left
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
34202 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 10:59 pm to
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BI fricked the play up. Y’all hate Lonzo so much you are using him constantly as the scapegoat


Go back and read from when the game ended. %90 of it is blaming Ingram and SVG. Lonzo made a bone headed shot as well. It just wasn't good no matter how you look at it.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110709 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 10:59 pm to
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You are asking Lonzo to create a scramble play with 9 seconds left
Uhh, that's a shite ton of time and much higher % than a 30ft 3.

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You are asking to not get a shot off at all.
This is definitely not a reason to shoot a 30 footer with 9 seconds left.

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He could have dribbled in and shot, but you lose potentially a put back opportunity.
How long do you think that takes? If he drives and shoots, the shot would be up with about 5 or 6 seconds left.

Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110709 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 11:00 pm to
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Stan and BI fricked that whole situation up, but we have to figure out a way to make it about Lonzo.
What?

Literally everyone is crushing Ingram.

But to pretend that shooting a 30 footer with 9 seconds left deserves no criticism is just silly.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22780 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 11:02 pm to
People blamed Lonzo because Lillard scored when he was put on an island. They blamed him for taking a 3 after BI screwed up.

As I said. I conceded he was set up too far back; however, that is the right play by Lonzo there.

It was a good looking shot just deeper than preferred. He didn’t Carlton Banks it like BI at the end.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110709 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 11:02 pm to
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however, that is the right play by Lonzo there.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22780 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 11:03 pm to
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How long do you think that takes? If he drives and shoots, the shot would be up with about 5 or 6 seconds left.



How long have you watched the Pelicans in end of clock situations? They would have not gotten a shot off.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
20930 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 11:05 pm to
I blame SVG and BI before Zo but we also never ask lonzo to make that type of shot or play ever at the end of the game

Not excusing lonzo but at least he shot it with confidence hahaha
This post was edited on 2/17/21 at 11:07 pm
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22780 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 11:10 pm to
I mean I am not setting a play up to have Lonzo shoot a 3 as a first or second option at the end of the game. That play had BI or Zion taking the final shot with the bail out being throwing it out for a 3pt shot. BI screwed up end of story. We were stuck shooting the 3pt shot.

I wish Hart would have forced the same situation the previous defensive possession.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
34202 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 11:10 pm to
Cmon man you know that wasn't the right shot. There's 9 seconds left and it's a 2 point game. You have time create something for others or yourself and a 3 wasn't even needed.

He didn't cost us the game, I'm not saying that. I'm saying there were multiple mistakes made coming out of a timeout that shouldn't happen, he made one of them.
Posted by jprdbulldog20
Member since Feb 2013
18889 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 11:12 pm to


yeah zo wasnt the main culprit in that ridiculous last possession but wtf dude had no business taking this shot
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22780 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 11:17 pm to
It would have been nice for Hart to pin down his guy and JJ rotate over for a shot. It is end of game though and I don’t think a scramble play is in everyone’s mind though coming out of a time out.

I think it is BI and Zion two man game. Then kick out for a three if it falls apart. I think making it more complicated than a set couple of options it what leads to situation where a shot doesn’t get off or an absolute horrible shot is taken.

He should have been in closer when he caught the ball, but I think that was one of the planned third options.

I think a much bigger screw up was Hart not helping on the previous defensive possession or Stan not getting Zion in the game sooner.
This post was edited on 2/17/21 at 11:20 pm
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30091 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 11:18 pm to
if he drives and looks right, redick has an open 3.

lets be honest. a desperate pass (BI and SVG's fault) and a scared and desperate shot (Zo).

He had no business putting up that shot, but he was set up to fail if he doesn't have the IQ to know 9 seconds left, drive it and heave up a prayer or take a 30ft shot
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
10342 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 11:23 pm to
I'm pretty sure Portland was not going to leave Redick open no matter the circumstance. His man didn't move an inch during that last possession.
Posted by whodat24
Member since Oct 2018
2356 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 11:42 pm to
Instead of melting we could be happy that our team put up a really good fight against a team that is just honestly better than us at this point. Off a back to back our superstar still looked like a superstar
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