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re: Pels Offseason
Posted on 6/24/26 at 1:32 pm to Fun Bunch
Posted on 6/24/26 at 1:32 pm to Fun Bunch
Mosley Press
Mosley said he sees this situation as a team “on the cusp” the non moves on night one reflect it.
Mosley said he sees this situation as a team “on the cusp” the non moves on night one reflect it.
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Posted on 6/24/26 at 1:32 pm to Fun Bunch
Here's an example:
As of today, neither Fears nor Queen are starters on this team. Not only does that stunt their long term growth, it effects future earning power at some point. Guys won't stand for that, and the guys in front of them would be livid starting the season on the bench.
It just doesn't work.
You've got to "clear the way" for those guys to be the full time starters first of all, then start finding guys that can either be stars with them or compliment them. Its a process.
As of today, neither Fears nor Queen are starters on this team. Not only does that stunt their long term growth, it effects future earning power at some point. Guys won't stand for that, and the guys in front of them would be livid starting the season on the bench.
It just doesn't work.
You've got to "clear the way" for those guys to be the full time starters first of all, then start finding guys that can either be stars with them or compliment them. Its a process.
Posted on 6/24/26 at 1:33 pm to Broski
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As long as Zion is the focal point that the roster is being built around, the team literally can't succeed
Please please please show me how he was the focal point of the offense last year?
We fricking benched him when he played bad last year.
We legit subbed him for people like McGowens.
He had healthy games under 20-25min based on bad play.
AND we played the players that were hot or shooting well even if they were bench players.
So no, that opinion is based off nothing other than him being on the roster. You made that up because of your distain for Zion, not because its true. He was just a guy on the roster last year.
This post was edited on 6/24/26 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 6/24/26 at 1:33 pm to Dantheman504
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Please please please show me how he was the focal point of the offense last year?
Oh... you actually are retarded.
Posted on 6/24/26 at 1:37 pm to Dantheman504
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Please please please show me how he was the focal point of the offense last year?
We fricking benched him when he played bad last year.
We legit subbed him for people like McGowens.
He had healthy games under 20-25min based on bad play.
AND we played the players that were hot or shooting well even if they were bench players.
Wouldn't this be even worse? He's on a big contract accounting for 25% of our cap space
Posted on 6/24/26 at 1:37 pm to Broski
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Coach Borrego explained that utilizing him as a reserve and sometimes keeping him sidelined in the fourth quarter was purely a "math game" to properly align his minutes restrictions and maintain the momentum of the hot lineup on the floor.
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On December 14, [2025], coming off an injury layoff, Williamson came off the bench for the first time in his NBA career against the Chicago Bulls, scoring 18 points.
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Oh... you actually are retarded.
Pot meet kettle my dude.
You couldn't be any more wrong and full of shite.
Kept him on the bench to maintain the hot lineups that he's not included in? Yeah that really screams "focal point".
This post was edited on 6/24/26 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 6/24/26 at 1:37 pm to Dantheman504
I agree with what you’re trying to say but it’s tricky trying to compare the Saints. The Saints were able to use free agency:
Drew Brees, Scott Fujita
Draft: 2006 draft and UDFA (Pierre, Lance,etc)
Trades: Jonathan Vilma, Shockey
In the NBA the pels don’t have that option of signing their Drew Brees like the Knicks did with Jalen Brunson. It’s strictly draft or trades. And even with trades players have so much power to steer their direction
Drew Brees, Scott Fujita
Draft: 2006 draft and UDFA (Pierre, Lance,etc)
Trades: Jonathan Vilma, Shockey
In the NBA the pels don’t have that option of signing their Drew Brees like the Knicks did with Jalen Brunson. It’s strictly draft or trades. And even with trades players have so much power to steer their direction
Posted on 6/24/26 at 1:39 pm to Dantheman504
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You couldn't be any more wrong and full of shite.
It's fun watching you melt because you can't handle people not being optimistic about where the team is right now.
This post was edited on 6/24/26 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 6/24/26 at 1:44 pm to Tank77
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So I’m assuming the lanes are trying to win now or build around the young guys?
Yes. You can’t straddle the fence and try to win while developing young guys unless you have a generational talent like a Wemby. Fears and Queen aren’t helping you win anytime soon so if you want to try and win now you have to be prepared to put them in offers. On the other hand if you want to develop Fears and Queen, blocking their playing time by keeping vets like Zion just to win a few more games is stupid.
Posted on 6/24/26 at 1:45 pm to Fun Bunch
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Wouldn't this be even worse? He's on a big contract accounting for 25% of our cap space
He can't comprehend that just because he's not playing sometimes doesn't mean that his contract isn't at the centerpiece of the roster.
As long as Zion is on the roster, the roster is being built around him because of his contract.
Posted on 6/24/26 at 1:47 pm to Tank77
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What if the option is to win now, then in the high likelihood that it doesn’t work out. You can hit the eject button. Build around Fears, Queen, the Pels Pick in 2027. Then trading Trey, Herb, Zion, and an expiring Dejounte. Rather than just saying here Fears and Queen, you can have the keys. While also putting Fears in that backup PG to continue development and Queen off the bench
They literally just tried that last year and won 26 games. So who is that helping?
Posted on 6/24/26 at 1:47 pm to Broski
I get people being mad about overly negative stuff.
People should attempt to be objective and compliment good stuff and call out bad stuff.
I really can't understand eternal optimism at this point for this franchise.
They've been in NOLA for 25 years and won 2 playoff series and have won less than 50 games over the last two years. The process for picking the current POBO was "He is our friend we named a horse after him".
I really hope they do well and I like Queen & Fears, but blind optimism is stupid at this point.
People should attempt to be objective and compliment good stuff and call out bad stuff.
I really can't understand eternal optimism at this point for this franchise.
They've been in NOLA for 25 years and won 2 playoff series and have won less than 50 games over the last two years. The process for picking the current POBO was "He is our friend we named a horse after him".
I really hope they do well and I like Queen & Fears, but blind optimism is stupid at this point.
Posted on 6/24/26 at 1:49 pm to Fun Bunch
Giannis, Kawhi, Jokic, Jimmy, Booker among others Are all players that didn’t start or get significant roles until after year 1 and 2. Playing the 48 minutes a night isn’t the only way a rookie can get developed. You don’t think Dylan Harper got any development.
Posted on 6/24/26 at 1:50 pm to Tank77
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In the NBA the pels don’t have that option of signing their Drew Brees like the Knicks did with Jalen Brunson. It’s strictly draft or trades. And even with trades players have so much power to steer their direction
Fears could be Drew Brees. Queen could be Drew Brees. A player we trade for could be Drew Brees.
Fears dropping 40 pt games as a rookie. Queen 30/20 games.
I'm not sure what y'all aren't understanding here.
The point is we aren't hopeless because of past issues. Anyone could change that at any moment. Fears/ Queen have had more hyped games than AD, Zion, and about 80% of rookie in the history of the NBA.
Queen's trip dubs as a rookie is on par with HOF and MVP NBA talent.
Oscar Robinson/ Magic/ Luka/ Wemby/ Cade. The only outliers were Ben Simmons and Giddey.
Zion's (3) highest PPG in 7 seasons: 43pts/ 39pts/ 36pts
Fears (3) highest PPG as a rookie: 40pts/ 36pts/ 36pts
Posted on 6/24/26 at 1:52 pm to Broski
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It's fun watching you melt because you can't handle people not being optimistic about where the team is right now
You said something stupid, I provided actual evidence confirming you are full of shite, you haven't responded with a defense because you are full of shite, and then claim I'm melting.
You actually are retarded.
Posted on 6/24/26 at 1:54 pm to Dantheman504
So mad 
Posted on 6/24/26 at 1:56 pm to Balsamic_duck
Probably since that was Year 1 and this is first offseason with their staffs in place. But I see where you coming from.
Posted on 6/24/26 at 1:59 pm to Tank77
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Probably since that was Year 1 and this is first offseason with their staffs in place. But I see where you coming from.
We've tried the "have our cake and eat it too" approach too many times and it has never worked.
Zion is a lost cause at this point, we can't do a proper rebuild until we move on from his contract. Every season that we keep kicking the rebuild can down the road, it makes it harder to build a new core with Fears and Queen.
Posted on 6/24/26 at 2:16 pm to Broski
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just because he's not playing sometimes doesn't mean that his contract isn't at the centerpiece of the roster.
It took you less than 5 posts to move the needle from "Zion is a focal point of the offense" to "Zion's contract is a centerpiece of the roster"
Argue minutes, lose the argument, move on to arguing salary. What else do you want to melt about regarding Zion?
We could make a playoff run with Zion out for the season and y'all would spend more time talking about Zion being out than everyone else playing well.
This post was edited on 6/24/26 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 6/24/26 at 2:17 pm to Broski
Once again it’s Year 2. If it doesn’t go well then you have 2 players in Fears and Queen, and a high pick to build with tradeable players. It’s frustrating I get it. But no point in getting frustrating over things that you can’t control
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