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re: Pels *allegedly* thinking Zion extension/win now strategy

Posted on 4/10/26 at 8:39 am to
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 4/10/26 at 8:39 am to
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2027 NOP/MIL 1st


No way I’m giving that pick up just for Gobert. The lesser of the pick woukd go to the Hawks thanks to the DD trade. That would put us not having any picks in two years where the draft is the life blood of a small market team…

Gobert will turn 34 soon. That pick only goes out for a young ascending player that would be on the same timeline of Fears…
This post was edited on 4/10/26 at 8:42 am
Posted by Balsamic_duck
Member since Jun 2017
4453 posts
Posted on 4/10/26 at 8:42 am to
This is a million times worse than literally doing nothing. I will bet any amount of money that no matter what trades Joe makes this team will not even make the Play in next year
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45549 posts
Posted on 4/10/26 at 9:07 am to
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Pels *allegedly* thinking Zion extension/win now strategy


Why do I still care about this team if they are going to do stupid shite like this?
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30327 posts
Posted on 4/10/26 at 9:18 am to
If they sign Zion to an extension I will without a doubt quit being a Pelicans fan.
I have little to no interest in this team next year if he’s still on the roster.

Keeping Zion isn’t a win now move. We’ve had 7 years of not winning with him. That isn’t changing in year 8. he has zero game outside of offensively driving left to the goal and finishing b/c of athleticism. He has zero footwork, can’t dribble, refuses to shoot or even move off ball, doesn’t rebound and is one of the laziest defenders to ever play. His game doesn’t mesh well with anyone b/c he has no game and doesn’t play defense.

We went from considering cutting him and not being able to trade him at all to wanting to give him an extension after just one shitty season where he gave minimal effort all year just to show he could be somewhat healthy? get the frick outta here.
Posted by Balsamic_duck
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 4/10/26 at 9:30 am to
Why trade an unprotected 1st this year for Queen just block his development by holding on to Zion? It literally makes no sense
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 4/10/26 at 9:47 am to
This is Dumars and Weaver were talking about.
Posted by Demps
Member since Oct 2025
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Posted on 4/10/26 at 10:03 am to
So we used to 1st’s on players that will come off the bench? Trade for a bunch of old farts? What is next ? They bring Gentry back?
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/10/26 at 10:41 am to
So Dumars is going to sacrifice long-term winning for short-term mediocrity. Just absolutely moronic.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 4/10/26 at 10:53 am to
someone explain why we hating on a 21-24 ppg scorer at a 60% clip rate that can share minute volume at a proposed 2 yr from now 35 million per yr extension?

when i ask for explaining, just remember its rhetorical.

and remember, ya'll the same folks saying we ain't getting shite for him in a trade.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476513 posts
Posted on 4/10/26 at 11:01 am to
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someone explain why we hating on a 21-24 ppg scorer at a 60% clip rate that can share minute volume at a proposed 2 yr from now 35 million per yr extension?

That's not the bad part. The bad part is what I quoted.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
178852 posts
Posted on 4/10/26 at 11:03 am to
queen's development? I think queen can become whatever he wants to become still with or without zion.
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
56549 posts
Posted on 4/10/26 at 11:03 am to
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Dumars is going to sacrifice long-term winning for short-term mediocrity. Just absolutely moronic.


The pels way. The gayle benson way
Posted by Demps
Member since Oct 2025
1219 posts
Posted on 4/10/26 at 11:23 am to
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queen's development? I think queen can become whatever he wants to become still with or without zion.


So whatever now? Why give up a lottery pick for him?
This post was edited on 4/10/26 at 11:25 am
Posted by Demps
Member since Oct 2025
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Posted on 4/10/26 at 11:26 am to
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
178852 posts
Posted on 4/10/26 at 11:29 am to
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So whatever now?


he's a huge part of our team moving forward. not sure what your petulant assumptions are about.
Posted by Demps
Member since Oct 2025
1219 posts
Posted on 4/10/26 at 11:31 am to
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he's a huge part of our team moving forward. not sure what your petulant assumptions are about.


He might be getting moved too. Reports are Dumars is thinking everyone is replaceable except Zion.

Welcome to the Darvin Ham era.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
178852 posts
Posted on 4/10/26 at 11:32 am to
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He might be getting moved too.


queen and fears are going nowhere.
Posted by Demps
Member since Oct 2025
1219 posts
Posted on 4/10/26 at 11:37 am to
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queen and fears are going nowhere


You trust Joe? LOL. Ask Detroit.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476513 posts
Posted on 4/10/26 at 11:44 am to
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queen and fears are going nowhere.


I'm worried Ham is the wrong coach for Queen.

He's one of those coaches who is irrational about defense, and Queen has major issues there and it may not be fixable (with his athletic profile). He's the type of coach to sit young players who aren't defensive pieces, which would be a disaster for developing Queen.

He doesn't have any real offense and lacks the ability to draw up plays. Allegedly is terrible with subs/timeouts, too.

Sounds like THE perfect coach for a retard like Dumars.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476513 posts
Posted on 4/10/26 at 11:47 am to
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queen's development?

Trading 1st and Herb for "win now" players was the bigger part.

But trading our 1st in this insane draft to get Queen and then not playing him is retarded on its own, yes.
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