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Pels 3rd in NBA in 1st half PPG and 7th in 1st half differential
Posted on 2/11/18 at 3:33 pm
Posted on 2/11/18 at 3:33 pm
Which drops to 23rd in 2nd half PPG and 28th in 2nd half differential (via LINK). Admittedly I've been far too disappointed in the team this year to watch most of the games but I still frequently check scores. I know it's no shock to anyone following the team that they blow a lead like no other but the differential is actually amazing. I'm too lazy to compare the rest of the NBA and see if there's that big of a drop-off for any other team in the league. Is this mainly a coaching issue or are there other factors playing into it?
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Posted on 2/11/18 at 5:03 pm to tehchampion140
I noticed the same thing. I've never seen a team get outscored like the Pels do in the third quarter. It's insane how they regularly get smoked by 15-20 points coming out the second half.
That's straight up coaching.
That's straight up coaching.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 5:04 pm to tehchampion140
Could the statistical disparity between halfs be due to our lack of bench scoring and starters (more so the key guys) having to log so many minutes and wearing down?
Or Alvin really sucks at making adjustments as teams change their strategy coming out the half.
Or Alvin really sucks at making adjustments as teams change their strategy coming out the half.
This post was edited on 2/11/18 at 5:05 pm
Posted on 2/11/18 at 5:11 pm to 504Voodoo
Fatigue
It’s now become a mental problem
Gentry
Imo in that order
It’s now become a mental problem
Gentry
Imo in that order
This post was edited on 2/11/18 at 5:12 pm
Posted on 2/11/18 at 6:15 pm to ShamelessPel
I think it's fatigue plain and simple...physically and mentally
Posted on 2/11/18 at 6:32 pm to 504Voodoo
quote:
Could the statistical disparity between halfs be due to our lack of bench scoring and starters (more so the key guys) having to log so many minutes and wearing down?
Doesn't affect minny.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 6:43 pm to TeddyPadillac
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Doesn't affect minny.
Because Thibs is like that personal trainer that keeps pushing you until you throw up.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 7:00 am to TigerinATL
McCollum/Lillard
Harden/Ariza
George/Westbrook
Giannis/Middleton
all combos playing 36+ minutes a game each, just like AD/Jrue, and the 3 in Minny.
They are professional athletes. Being tired is a pathetic excuse.
Harden/Ariza
George/Westbrook
Giannis/Middleton
all combos playing 36+ minutes a game each, just like AD/Jrue, and the 3 in Minny.
They are professional athletes. Being tired is a pathetic excuse.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 7:32 am to 504Voodoo
Last time I checked, shockingly our 3rd quarter scoring is about the same as last year. Our 3rd quarter defense on the other hand has gone to shite.
Starters are definitely fatigued.
Starters are definitely fatigued.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 8:12 am to NOFOX
Isn’t it weird fatigue sets in right after their biggest break of the game.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 8:13 am to TeddyPadillac
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They are professional athletes. Being tired is a pathetic excuse.
Pro athletes are still human though. I think swapping Gentry for a different average coach while losing Finch is a lateral move at best. But the people wanting to fire Gentry aren't wrong that a different coach could get more out of this team, at least in some areas.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 8:41 am to 504Voodoo
quote:Could be both
Could the statistical disparity between halfs be due to our lack of bench scoring and starters (more so the key guys) having to log so many minutes and wearing down?
Or Alvin really sucks at making adjustments as teams change their strategy coming out the half.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 8:53 am to TigerinATL
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Pro athletes are still human though
Yeah, so what excuse do you want to use as to why the 5 other pairs of stars on other teams that play the same minutes don't look tired? Are they not human? Was Iverson and his 40+ minutes a night not human?
I just don't want to here this tired excuse. It's not backed by anything.
Jrue doesn't look tired. AD isn't tired, he just has a lack of wanting to play hard for some reason. We are trying to make up reasons why we suck. Excuses are for losers.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 9:18 am to TeddyPadillac
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McCollum/Lillard Harden/Ariza George/Westbrook Giannis/Middleton
OKC, MIN, PDX, MIL are all bottom half of the NBA in Pace. Harden is an MVP candidate and doesn’t exert as much energy on the defensive side of the ball while Ariza’s usage doesn’t compare to these other guys listed. Fatigue is playing a role in our second half performances. Our stars are playing more minutes than ever before and at a faster pace than they have ever played. They have to carry the team on both sides of the ball too.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 9:44 am to NOFOX
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OKC, MIN, PDX, MIL are all bottom half of the NBA in Pace.
and are all in the top half in defensive rating. I could argue that playing better defense is more tiring that just running up and down the court at a faster pace, while playing shite defense, since we are a bottom 10 defense.
It's an excuse full of fallacy. If somehow they are fatigued, while no one else seems to be, then something is seriously wrong with how they go about conditioning themselves.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 10:06 am to TeddyPadillac
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McCollum/Lillard
Harden/Ariza
George/Westbrook
Giannis/Middleton
You realize Davis and Cousins are bigger athletes than all of those save Giannis. Milwaukee hasn't exactly been lighting the world on fire since their hot start either.
Jrue also shows very little signs of fatigue with his minutes burden to further the point.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 10:24 am to ShamelessPel
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You realize Davis and Cousins are bigger athletes than all of those save Giannis. Milwaukee hasn't exactly been lighting the world on fire since their hot start either.
Kevin Garnett played 38-40 mpg for 11 straight seasons. I don't remember him being tired. Played 10 times harder than AD does on both ends of the court.
Shaq averaged more mpg over his first 10 seasons than AD is playing right now.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 10:30 am to TeddyPadillac
I think you're getting side tracked on semantics because you're pissed that AD isn't as good as he should be. He's ice, not fire, and that's probably not going to ever change. If you want to maximize his talent he needs to be surrounded by other good players. He's a co-lead at best.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 10:41 am to TeddyPadillac
Pace and fatigue matters whether you want to believe it or not. We are a top shooting team in the first halves being 1st in FG%, EFG% and 2nd in 3pt%. Then in second halves we drop down into the bottom half of the league in FG% with a 27th ranking in FT% and 29th in 3pt % . That is not other teams just making adjustments, that is tired legs. Regardless of whether you think they Shouldn’t be fatigued, they clearly are.
As for pace, they have to play more possessions per game. More possessions is going to be more fatiguing. They still have to play defense on those possessions and expend energy.
As for pace, they have to play more possessions per game. More possessions is going to be more fatiguing. They still have to play defense on those possessions and expend energy.
This post was edited on 2/12/18 at 10:45 am
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