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re: Offseason player trade rumors thread
Posted on 6/25/21 at 3:25 pm to 3PieceSpicy
Posted on 6/25/21 at 3:25 pm to 3PieceSpicy
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I really don’t understand what the Thunder are doing if they trade Shai.
maybe they don't want to pay him that much b/c they don't think he's worth it, like Sexton, but know that's what he wants, and that someone else will give him a max.
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I think the picks you outlined are probably fair, but why the hell would OKC want more draft picks? They already have like 25 in the next 8 years.
that i don't understand. I"m not sure what they are trying to do.
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Posted on 6/25/21 at 3:29 pm to TigerinATL
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They shouldn't be. Locking into SGA as your top dog is doomed to fail like Butler in Chicago and George in Indy.
Yep. I think it's a much different story if they get a top 3 pick. Falling all the way to sixth AND not getting the Houston pick is a pretty terrible outcome for them. If they sign SGA to the max, they'll have him, Poku, Dort, Scottie Barnes maybe, Kemba, and a bunch of other stuff. They're still years away from sniffing contention at this point. I think that's why they at least think about seeing what they can get for SGA.
Posted on 6/25/21 at 3:40 pm to LesGeaux45
Stop it guys.
Just stop.
You aren’t getting SGA for our poo poo platter of draft picks.
OKC has no incentive to do it. None, zilch. Stop it
Just stop.
You aren’t getting SGA for our poo poo platter of draft picks.
OKC has no incentive to do it. None, zilch. Stop it
Posted on 6/25/21 at 3:43 pm to TigerinATL
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How good his defense is, leadership, handle, crunch time creation are all things I'd want to know more about before trading half the warchest for him
That's where i stand on him, and why i would'nt say i'm ready to unload a ton of assets for him. I don't know enough about him.
Posted on 6/25/21 at 3:49 pm to Bronc
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our poo poo platter of draft picks.
Everybody acts like the Pels have a bunch of picks in the late 20's, that's not what they have at all. It's 2 bundles of picks. After what we saw in the playoffs, do you think the Lakers will have no down years between now and 2025?
I think betting on injury, decline, or both if you had picks all 4 years is a decent bet to make. If you only had 1 or 2 of them it's not as attractive because you don't know when tragedy will strike.
To get value you have to trade an entire bundle, like all of the Lakers picks/swaps together. I also think the noise from Zion's family makes our own pick/swap in 2 years worth betting on for other teams.
This post was edited on 6/25/21 at 3:50 pm
Posted on 6/25/21 at 3:49 pm to TeddyPadillac
You guys are crazy if you wouldn't trade the warchest for SGA. Dude is posting crazy numbers and doesn't turn the ball over. He's same age as NAW, younger than Tatum. Has 50% fg and 42% 3pt this season. Better PER than Tatum this season as well.
Posted on 6/25/21 at 4:17 pm to PelsForLife
quote:I agree with a lot of what you say, except that he does turn the ball over. He averages 3 turnovers a game. Also, would need to know how his foot injury has healed.
You guys are crazy if you wouldn't trade the warchest for SGA. Dude is posting crazy numbers and doesn't turn the ball over. He's same age as NAW, younger than Tatum. Has 50% fg and 42% 3pt this season. Better PER than Tatum this season as well.
This post was edited on 6/25/21 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 6/25/21 at 4:33 pm to NOSHAU
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Cannot see it. Since when does a soon to be 23 year old not "fit their timeline?"
If he's tired of losing and has asked for a trade, and they are at risk of creating a bad locker room with a young team by having their best player as a malcontent.
That's all just speculation, but I don't know why it's improbable.
Posted on 6/25/21 at 4:45 pm to PelsForLife
It’s pretty much irrelevant, You aren’t getting SGA for the tenth pick and a bunch of Lakers and Bucks picks
You aren’t getting him period
OKC is not in a seller mode. They aren’t going to make a bunch of what-if decisions years out
that they don’t need to.
SGA will be starting for OKC opening day.
Brogdon will be starting in IND opening day.
The reason we want these players is because they are good players on good deals, that fit our culture. Stop and consider that the teams that acquired them also believe that.
You aren’t getting him period
OKC is not in a seller mode. They aren’t going to make a bunch of what-if decisions years out
that they don’t need to.
SGA will be starting for OKC opening day.
Brogdon will be starting in IND opening day.
The reason we want these players is because they are good players on good deals, that fit our culture. Stop and consider that the teams that acquired them also believe that.
Posted on 6/25/21 at 4:50 pm to Bronc
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It’s pretty much irrelevant, You aren’t getting SGA for the tenth pick and a bunch of Lakers and Bucks picks
You aren’t getting him period
Yeah? Well now I want it to happen even more.
Posted on 6/27/21 at 2:37 pm to SLafourche07
Sounds like the Raptors wouldn't be looking to trade core pieces and start over either:
LINK
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“This year was a bit of an aberration for us...We totally expect to be competitive next year.”
The Raptors jumped to 4th in the Draft Lottery! Their GM, Bobby Webster, tells Justin Termine & Eddie Johnson he expects a rebound next season.
LINK
Posted on 6/27/21 at 2:42 pm to TigerinATL
I just really get the feeling that the play-in has forever changed the dynamics of the NBA trade market. With more teams believing that they can make the postseason, there will always be fewer willing to sell off key pieces in exchange for picks.
Posted on 6/27/21 at 2:59 pm to GOP_Tiger
That probably makes going all in for SGA even more the move to make this offseason. Disgruntled stars control where they go to a large degree. If the Pels don't become a middle of the pack playoff team, it won't matter what assets they have when a disgruntled star wants out.
Posted on 6/27/21 at 3:02 pm to TigerinATL
I’m down for pushing in the chips for SGA, but what does that look like? What does it take and where does that leave us for the next move? He isn’t the only move we need to make if we are moving on from pieces like BI/JAX/NAW to make it happen.
Posted on 6/27/21 at 3:03 pm to TeddyPadillac
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SGA is available to sign a 5/$168M max extension this offseason, and now we hear he might be available for trade. Maybe OKC isn't interested in giving him that, just like Cleveland isn't interested in giving Sexton a max extension. once you sign that extension, you can't be traded for a year.
Do you think SGA is worth $34M/yr? Do you realize if you get him and sign him to that, then you'll have BI/SGA/Zion making $100M+/yr in 2 years. We'd have zero flexibility, so i ask again, is SGA going to make us a championship contender? Is that who you want to unload the war chest on?
he's as good as any potential 3rd option
and any legit 3rd option we acquire will have the same salary concerns with Zion/BI
so is your argument that we should give up on getting an elite guy to pair with Zion/BI?
Posted on 6/27/21 at 3:08 pm to touchdownjeebus
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I’m down for pushing in the chips for SGA, but what does that look like?
i'm curious, too
if SGA isn't on their timeline then NAW/Hayes shouldn't be, either
Posted on 6/27/21 at 3:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
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if SGA isn't on their timeline then NAW/Hayes shouldn't be, either
Bledsoe + 10 + 3 future picks? For the future picks give them unprotected the best of Pels/Lakers picks for the next 3 years?
OKC ended up 6th in what is considered a 4-5 player draft. With 10 added to their 6, 16, 18 maybe they can move into the top 3 this year and between their own picks and the best of our next several picks they increase their odds of landing a foundation player.
Posted on 6/27/21 at 3:15 pm to TeddyPadillac
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now we hear he might be available for trade.
Nowhere has that been reported
Media speculation does not equal insider confirmation.
Posted on 6/27/21 at 3:19 pm to TigerinATL
the only issue with that is that I"m sure SGA would likely be a better chip + 6 to move into the top 3
you can't tell me SGA wouldn't be perfect to deal to Toronto at 4, also. 4 and 6 would be a good start
you can't tell me SGA wouldn't be perfect to deal to Toronto at 4, also. 4 and 6 would be a good start
Posted on 6/27/21 at 3:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
The last thing we need is Griffin desperate for a player Presti has other bidders for.
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