re: Official 2018 Pelicans Offseason Thread

yeah thats a tough loss for them especially without parker now. they also lost lonnie walker (rookie) earlier. knowing the spurs they'll still win 45 though

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i would assume they signed & waived him to get him on their D league team, however this guy has 4th big skills and i think he's already better than diallo & okafor combined.

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Isn't he more of a wing than a big? That being said, with our need on the wing, could be an interesting signing (even if only for a 2-way if he does not get other offers). I am not sure if Spurs have used both of their 2-way contracts yet.

No they haven't used both yet.

Throw one of the firsts from Hawks to Wolves and it makes more sense.

James Johnson has a bad contract.

If the Hawks are giving up Prince, they need two firsts. One from us, and the other from Miami or Minny.
Johnson may be a bad contract, but he's still a good player. In my scenario, i would think Miami gives up the first. If you switch out Johnson for Richardson, Minny gives up the first round pick.

If Minny wants to unload Dieng, they don't get to get a 1st back. His contract is horrible. In that scenario, Minny is sending out $45M and taking back $38M, $5M is expiring in Ajinca. So they basically replace Dieng with Johnson, and you can look at Bazemore as a 1 year deal signed in the offseason, and they would have a good bit of salary cap space in 2 years since they'd basically just have Wiggins and Kat on the books.

If i had to guess who says no in my hypothetical silly fan biased trade, it would be Atlanta, and maybe Minny.

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If the Hawks are giving up Prince, they need two firsts.

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I'm not even sure they do it for 2 1sts. They already have one of the scarcer commodities to get in today's NBA. If the Pels wind up trading for a wing it's either going to be an overpaid one from a team changing direction like Batum or Barnes, or an unproven one where the team is ready to go in a different direction, which fits Winslow a lot more than Prince.

This is based partly on something MM threw out several weeks ago

Minny Bazemore, Moore
Miami Jimmy Butler
NOLA Waiters, Winslow
Atlanta Ajinca and filler

The tricky part is picks. Even though ATL is only taking on about $9-$10 million in expirings they need to get paid more than a 2nd. I can also see Minnesota wanting to get Baze/Moore and a 1st. Pels and Miami send out 1sts to ATL and Minnesota? Pels get some kind of change back like 2nds?

I know what you're thinking, why not send out Hill instead of Ajinca, then it'd be worth a 1st. I don't think a 1st covers Hill now. Maybe at the deadline, but not now.

I know Waiters has been decent recently, when not hurt, but I don't want him, and i'd rather Moore than Waiters. Waiters has been healthy in one of the past 4 seasons, and he has 3 years left on his deal.

I would think in that scenario Minny would need a 1st.
I wouldn't want the Pels to do that deal. It's not a bad deal, I just think we could do better giving out Moore and a 1st.

I'm warming up to the idea of getting Bazemore. I know we are holding out to try and get someone better like Barnes, but I think i'd almost rather 2 years of Bazemore than having to risk not being able to resign Barmes, or having to resign him to something ridiculous.


I know Solo/Ajinca for Bazemore was on the table this offseason and we didn't move on it, but I think I would now. We aren't going to attract a big FA, and we won't have the cap space anyway if we want to resign Niko/Randle. The SF they are looking at trading for, Barnes may not resign with us, and I don't think he's worth the ridiculous contract he's going to get, and Batum just isn't good. Middleton isn't getting traded, and isnt' going to sign with us.
The two teams that may look to give up a allstar are Portland and Washington, if there season starts to go in the shitter, and we likely don't have the assets to get McCollum or Beal, or even Porter.

Bazemore gives us a solid 3 for the next 2 years before AD becomes expensive as frick and we can't do anything. Spend those two years trying to find a young 3 that's on a rookie deal that you can move forward with, whether drafting him or trading for him. Jrue can cover any 3 in the league, and i'm fine with that. We dont' need a prototypical SF. We simply need a guy that's at least 6'4" that can hit a 3 and play defense at a minimum against the 2nd best wing player from opposing teams. Sure it would be great to find a 6'8" prototypical SF, but honestly any decent sized guy that can be a positive on both sides of the court will suffice given Jrue's defensive abilities.

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I know Solo/Ajinca for Bazemore was on the table this offseason and we didn't move on it, but I think I would now. We aren't going to attract a big FA, and we won't have the cap space anyway if we want to resign Niko/Randle. The SF they are looking at trading for, Barnes may not resign with us, and I don't think he's worth the ridiculous contract he's going to get, and Batum just isn't good. Middleton isn't getting traded, and isnt' going to sign with us.
The two teams that may look to give up a allstar are Portland and Washington, if there season starts to go in the shitter, and we likely don't have the assets to get McCollum or Beal, or even Porter.

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thank you, and AMEN

the pool of players available at the deadline that the pels want/need/are able to get is going to be small. to me, its either bazemore (and hold your nose) or fournier (and REALLY hold your nose). nobody else is going to want those players so the pels should not overpay

exactly
to me there is no gettable wing that is worth a 1st unless WAS decides to move on from porter which would mean that he’s either hurt or they are having a season from hell. Otherwise we should keep the pick in any deal