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re: Nola article on AD leadership

Posted on 1/13/16 at 8:53 pm to
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 8:53 pm to
Lol this is his peak at fricking 22?

He can't lead a team to a title on his own,that's impossible for really any player.

Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 8:56 pm to
quote:

takeflight23
51 minutes ago




Its not bout Its AD jus times on the floor he let things happen he need 2 put his foot down he allow sum players 2 go away 4rm him especially wit a small match up
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Posted by tigerbait3488
River Ridge
Member since Dec 2007
10466 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 8:57 pm to
Los, I presented evidence from Nola that their are more opinions out there like mine. Not trying to pile on or be stale.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61553 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 9:10 pm to
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Not trying to pile on


The problem is this is the Internet and "he's got some real flaws" easily turns into "he's garbage". AD is not a creator, he disappears in games because he is dependent on his teammates to set him up. But even with averageish guards last year he had an historic season. If they can pair him with an elite creator in the right system it's easy to envision him being OPOY and DPOY at the same time. Hopefully in a few years he'll be able to do more on his own, including lead, but even if he can't, we need to take advantage of and appreciate what he is, not focus on what he isn't.
This post was edited on 1/13/16 at 9:11 pm
Posted by 504Voodoo
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2012
13538 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 9:39 pm to
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If this is his peak, it's still great but not what we were hoping for and definitely not enough to lead the team to a title.





He's 22
Posted by Gtothemoney
Da North Shore
Member since Sep 2012
17715 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 9:49 pm to
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"he's garbage".


This is a troll.

quote:

"he's got some real flaws"


This is not a troll. But problem is, they get treated the same way when you criticize the franchise. Heck, few on her call were calling you a troll for mentioning Asik's flaws without mentioning his RPG.
Posted by Let Me Take A Selfie
Member since Aug 2014
2622 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 10:27 pm to
You mean to tell me that it's hard to top an all-time great season?!
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 10:39 pm to
A Nola report sourced from fricking bleacher report

Both sites are a joke
Posted by Let Me Take A Selfie
Member since Aug 2014
2622 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 11:17 pm to
Wow he's such a terrible leader you guys
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47706 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 2:53 am to
It's the organization's fault for not putting more vets around him... no one can lead a title team at 22 bc guys won't fall in line behind a dude that young
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
12723 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 9:24 am to
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I'm not really an I told ya so kinda guy but this guys saying what I was saying 6 mos ago when people were crowning Davis best or second best in the league or whatever. I need to see proof of qualities(ie leadership. Heart.) that don't show up in a Box score before saying any player is the best in the league or even second best.



Pretty easy to spot lack of heart and desire when you are subjected to D12. I'll give you that one.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59695 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 9:27 am to
Iirc D12 lead the playoffs in blocks AND rebounds the last two postseasons so I reckon you're barking up the wrong tree.
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
12723 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 9:30 am to
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Iirc D12 lead the playoffs in blocks AND rebounds the last two postseasons so I reckon you're barking up the wrong tree.


Argues stats don't mean anything when it comes to leadership. Presents stats as a means to justify leadership. One of a kind boom.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
127428 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 9:32 am to
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Mind-boggling to me that Williams would get fired because the team blew a lead in the playoffs v the team who won the whole thing.

That team was still one game away from missing the playoffs, with it coming down to the very last game.
Posted by BadTyreke
Member since Apr 2015
1312 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 9:37 am to
Yeah don't James Harden and Dwight Howard ignore their "role player" teammates and incessantly hang out with Ronald McDonald? That doesn't seem very leader like. Lol.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111024 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 9:41 am to
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Producing the facts
In fairness, did the article really produce many actual facts that point to his leadership woes?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116095 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 9:43 am to
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blocks AND rebounds the last two postseasons


Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111024 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 9:47 am to
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If this is his peak, it's still great but not what we were hoping for and definitely not enough to lead the team to a title.
Why would it be his peak?

And what 22 year olds are leading their teams to titles?
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59695 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 9:53 am to
12 lead the Magic to the finals, he's both a vocal and lead by example kinda guy.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59695 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 9:53 am to
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That team was still one game away from missing the playoffs, with it coming down to the very last game.
ravaged by injuries.. once healthy monty had them playing well.
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