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New article says Rivers having the worst season of all time
Posted on 12/26/12 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 12/26/12 at 12:39 pm
Insider so no link, but
on replacement player
quote:
Rivers projects to rate nearly seven wins worse than a replacement-level player..... which would be the worst WARP score in the 34 seasons on record, starting with 1979-80, the first NBA season with the 3-point line.
on replacement player
quote:
So a "replacement player" is what, exactly? It's the type of player who is easy to find when a team needs a replacement. To find a good example, look no further than Hornets guard Brian Roberts, who went undrafted out of Dayton before starring overseas and signing with the Hornets after a successful stint in summer league. Roberts has been far more effective than Rivers as both a scorer and distributor while making the NBA's minimum salary.
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Posted on 12/26/12 at 12:44 pm to RonBurgundy
What. The. frick.
Posted on 12/26/12 at 1:04 pm to RonBurgundy
Yeah, he's definitely more worthless than DJ Mbenga
Posted on 12/26/12 at 1:06 pm to RonBurgundy
He's been absolutely terrible, there's no getting around it. That doesn't mean he won't eventually be decent, but he's an awful player right now.
I keep hearing a lot of, "he's only 18 months out of HS," talk. As if that's something unique to him. There's been a consistent flow of guys coming straight from HS, or 1 and done to the league, since the mid 90s. He's in the same spot that every other elite HS prospect of the last decade+ has been in, except his not riding the bench like some of them did and he's much worse than those who played.
I keep hearing a lot of, "he's only 18 months out of HS," talk. As if that's something unique to him. There's been a consistent flow of guys coming straight from HS, or 1 and done to the league, since the mid 90s. He's in the same spot that every other elite HS prospect of the last decade+ has been in, except his not riding the bench like some of them did and he's much worse than those who played.
Posted on 12/26/12 at 1:08 pm to RonBurgundy
I haven't caught the last few games but hasn't he played a little better recently?
Posted on 12/26/12 at 1:08 pm to RonBurgundy
He definitely got off to a rough start, and these advanced stats can be nice, but there's no way he is having the worst season of all time.
Posted on 12/26/12 at 1:10 pm to mm2316
Considering the way he's played recently, I think by the time this season is over that he won't even be close to that title.
Posted on 12/26/12 at 1:14 pm to mm2316
Had an atrocious start, then a nice 7 game stretch recently where he was shooting just under 50% and putting up around 12 points per game, but he's 6 of 24 in his last 3 games. It would be stupid to call him a bust this early, but he's played like dogshit and needs to start improving soon. Maybe when EG comes back he'll feel less pressure.
Posted on 12/26/12 at 1:20 pm to hendersonshands
quote:There are definitely worse players than Rivers around the league. They wear warmups the whole game, though.
Yeah, he's definitely more worthless than DJ Mbenga
Ideally Rivers would still be in college right now, or on the Jeremy Lamb plan in OKC. He doesn't play, but had a nice Dleague stint just to get some basketball in.
Posted on 12/26/12 at 1:22 pm to RonBurgundy
advanced metrix= nerds with calculators
I'll pass on their "paper" opinion
stupid re: season is what 1/4 in??? call with with your numbers when a FULL season is complete stat nerd (not op
)
I'll pass on their "paper" opinion
quote:
having the worst season of all time
stupid re: season is what 1/4 in??? call with with your numbers when a FULL season is complete stat nerd (not op
)
Posted on 12/26/12 at 1:30 pm to stapuffmarshy
quote:Rivers is terrible in all stats. Including the oldest of old school stats.
advanced metrix= nerds with calculators
The only area he's decent in right now is his 3 pt shooting.
Posted on 12/26/12 at 1:33 pm to stapuffmarshy
Thread title made me lol
Posted on 12/26/12 at 1:39 pm to stapuffmarshy
quote:
metrix
Posted on 12/26/12 at 1:41 pm to RonBurgundy
Wow, of all time?
Posted on 12/26/12 at 1:48 pm to RonBurgundy
quote:
metrix
the c is right next to the x c?
shoot me cause I don't care
nerdy geeks can keep their stats
Posted on 12/26/12 at 2:15 pm to RonBurgundy
Rivers(right now) is better than:
Roberts
Mason
Henry
Bogans
Jimmer
Thabeet
Ross
Fisher
Jason Collins
Livingston
Pargo
Walton
Casspi
Leuer
Radmonvic
Haywood
Mullen
B Wright
Dahntay Jones
Daye
Sam Young
Stephenson
Cook
EBanks
Turiaf
Cole
Joel Anthony
Pittman
Novak
Marshall
Blazers Bench
Raptors Bench
Jazz bench
Wizards bench
Most of the kings bench
Need I go on?
Roberts
Mason
Henry
Bogans
Jimmer
Thabeet
Ross
Fisher
Jason Collins
Livingston
Pargo
Walton
Casspi
Leuer
Radmonvic
Haywood
Mullen
B Wright
Dahntay Jones
Daye
Sam Young
Stephenson
Cook
EBanks
Turiaf
Cole
Joel Anthony
Pittman
Novak
Marshall
Blazers Bench
Raptors Bench
Jazz bench
Wizards bench
Most of the kings bench
Need I go on?
This post was edited on 12/26/12 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 12/26/12 at 2:24 pm to RonBurgundy
They should probably watch a game and see exactly how awful Roberts is at playing with a team. That would change their minds.
Posted on 12/26/12 at 2:37 pm to LosLobos111
quote:
Blazers Bench
Raptors Bench
Jazz bench
Wizards bench
Most of the kings benc
and this isn't about whether Rivers is better than, it's about how bad he is playing.
Posted on 12/26/12 at 2:39 pm to stapuffmarshy
quote:
nerdy geeks can keep their stats
Right, because advanced metrics aren't taking over sports or anything.
Posted on 12/26/12 at 2:49 pm to RonBurgundy
There was a time when Jason Kidd was considered the worst shooter ever!!!!
Statistically he was. In fact, whenever a shooter has a sub 40/30/80 season, they term it a Jason Kidd.
Now Kidd is one of the better spot-up 3 point shooters in the league.
Things change.
Although I hope Rivers develops quicker than Kidd...he is already much smarter.
Statistically he was. In fact, whenever a shooter has a sub 40/30/80 season, they term it a Jason Kidd.
Now Kidd is one of the better spot-up 3 point shooters in the league.
Things change.
Although I hope Rivers develops quicker than Kidd...he is already much smarter.
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