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re: Myles Turner to Bucks, Damien Lillard waived, Giannis not happy with team

Posted on 7/1/25 at 11:09 am to
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
15077 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 11:09 am to
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Well this is good news, we don't look quite as stupid for trading away the swap


Actually its bad news. We gave up a pick that is looking to be pretty good now. Do the board experts still think the Pacers make the playoffs?

And the Bucks picks that was suppose to be the jewel of the Jrue trade in ‘27 might be devalued if they keep adding pieces around Giannis.
This post was edited on 7/1/25 at 11:16 am
Posted by DJ3K
Member since Dec 2011
7500 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 11:12 am to
Pelicans got enough space to sign dame? And teach fears to be dame-esq in the future?

Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104096 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 11:15 am to
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Do the board experts still think the Pacers make the playoffs?


Yes.

The East has serious issues. An Indy team minus Turner and Haliburton still probably makes it.
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
56582 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 11:15 am to
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Do the board experts still think the Pacers make the playoffs?
let’s wait to see what they do. Still can sign a center and also use their picks for a trade
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20974 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 11:16 am to
Swapping Jrue for Lillard ruined MIL's defense, and Lillard isn't getting any younger. What would Dame actually be at the start of the 2026 season? I think that he wouldn't be great and his contract would just be an albatross around the neck of the Bucks.

Giannis needs to look at the big picture, because this is a smart move by MIL to try to open another contention window.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 7/1/25 at 11:17 am to
Posted by Dantheman504
N/A
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/1/25 at 11:21 am to
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Actually its bad news. We gave up a pick that is looking to be pretty good now. 


No this is not true at all. The impression was the we get a MIL pick without Giannis which still has a 10x higher chance being a lottery pick than the Pacers pick who just got to the Championship because of role players. Complete bullshite reasoning.

So we were upset we lost possibly pick #5 and pick #15 and now y'all are spinning it that we now lost pick #15 and #20 and that's worse? Again complete bullshite.

Pacers floor without Tuner/ Hali is still higher than MIL without Giannis. Hali will also return at some point next year. IND at worst will get 8 and won't be a lotto team.
This post was edited on 7/1/25 at 11:24 am
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13756 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 11:24 am to
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LOL and Giannis is staying and MIL has a better team and won't be in the lottery.
LOL, you forgot about the part of the unprotected pick that is the better of the Pelicans or Bucks.....
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13756 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 11:25 am to
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I’m not exactly a Dumars apologist but what were the chances Hali blows out his Achilles in the ONE remaining game on the schedule? .000001%?
Not if you look at history and think, what would it hurt to wait a couple of days to just be sure.
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
27939 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 11:25 am to
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LOL and Giannis is staying and MIL has a better team and won't be in the lottery. Crazy how we only see the negative things.

Y'all suck, half empty or full empty. Never half full.

pretty much, this...
Posted by Dantheman504
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Member since Jun 2013
6532 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 11:26 am to
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LOL, you forgot about the part of the unprotected pick that is the better of the Pelicans or Bucks.....


LOL you are assuming neither of them make the playoffs which is pathetic and I don't feel like arguing your fear porn.
This post was edited on 7/1/25 at 11:27 am
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
15077 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 11:29 am to
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No this is not true at all. The impression was the we get a MIL pick without Giannis which still has a 10x higher chance being a lottery pick than the Pacers pick who just got to the Championship because of role players. Complete bullshite reasoning.


I think it’s been known for a couple weeks once the rumors died Giannis wasn’t getting traded and they’d add more pieces to their team. After that it’s way more likely our team would be picking higher in the draft next year.

Our pick could still end up in the lottery.

Pacers will be without 2 of their best 3 players next year and everyone keeps saying they won’t miss a beat. I don’t believe that so I guess we will see.
This post was edited on 7/1/25 at 11:30 am
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13756 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 11:30 am to
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LOL you are assuming neither of them make the playoffs which is pathetic and I don't feel like arguing your fear porn.
I am not sure you understand that only one (Pelicans or Bucks) have to miss the playoffs for the pick to be in the lottery. The pick is the BETTER of the two teams' picks, not worse.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
80398 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 11:32 am to
Haynes is also Dame's media guy so is anybody going to tell him Giannis is happy an anchor is gone?
Posted by LSUgrad88
Member since Jun 2009
9159 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 11:32 am to
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LOL, you forgot about the part of the unprotected pick that is the better of the Pelicans or Bucks.....


The real part is that you CANNOT convince me Atlanta would not have made that trade for us to move up from 23 to 13 if we put a Top 5 protection on the pick. Thats why it was a terrible trade at the time.
Posted by AOC4PREZ2028
Member since Apr 2025
305 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 11:42 am to
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The real part is that you CANNOT convince me Atlanta would not have made that trade for us to move up from 23 to 13 if we put a Top 5 protection on the pick.


Dumars made that same offer to the Rockets, Trailblazer, and the Bulls. Those teams all turned it down. So yeah, if that pick was top-5 protected, Atlanta also would have turned down the trade.

But you already said that you CANNOT be convinced so I will just leave it alone.
This post was edited on 7/1/25 at 11:43 am
Posted by duyp
Member since May 2011
3388 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 11:52 am to
You can’t argue with fortune tellers. Seems like they know what the future holds.
Posted by Dantheman504
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Member since Jun 2013
6532 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 11:56 am to
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Pacers will be without 2 of their best 3 players next year and everyone keeps saying they won’t miss a beat. 


Won't miss a beat or won't miss the playoffs? No one said they will be top 3-4 in the East. They will 100% be top 8 in the East even if its #8. Which would put them right outside of the lottery.

You could say pretty much the same for the Pels at worst case scenario. I don't see any of the (3) team between Pels, MIL, IND missing the playoffs. If they do it would be like #12 or #13. Which if we just traded for a guy we wanted at #7 then guess what? It was still worth it.

The Pels being a lottery team is a dumb argument. If that's the case then Zion/ Herb get traded and we end up with probably (2) picks in 26' and other picks and everyone can shut the frick up. Y'all are really being dramatic with all of this.

We are putting ourselves in a win/ win situation and covering our arse meanwhile all people somehow see is a lose/ lose situation.

I don't think y'all have processed if we are bad then we rebuild and get a bunch of pics from Zion, Murray, Herb. This is legit a fun free trial season to see how well we do and how far we can go. Its legit a win/ win. The only way this season is a failure is if Fears/ Queen are dogshit and it really isn't looking that way.
This post was edited on 7/1/25 at 12:03 pm
Posted by LSUgrad88
Member since Jun 2009
9159 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 12:00 pm to
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Dumars made that same offer to the Rockets, Trailblazer, and the Bulls.


How could he have made the same trade to move up form 23 to 13 when the three teams you mentioned did not have the 13th pick? Its not an apples to apples comparison.
This post was edited on 7/1/25 at 12:02 pm
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130325 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 12:01 pm to
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