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re: Malik Beasley is a career 38% three point shooter on good volume

Posted on 2/25/23 at 10:14 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/25/23 at 10:14 pm to
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Remember when the Pelicans had the same Julius Randle that just pushed their shite in and let him walk to the Knicks for $20mm/year and all he has done is keep averaging 20+,10, and 5 ever since.

I don't think it was possible for us to keep him. We didn't have his bird's rights
Posted by Pelefraan 1
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 2/25/23 at 10:20 pm to
We had his non-bird rights, which allows for 120% of previous contract maximum
Posted by VA LSU fan
Virginia
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/25/23 at 10:39 pm to
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And how do you see Zion and Randle meshing


Only have to worry about 15% of the season.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
33101 posts
Posted on 2/25/23 at 11:16 pm to
I will never understand why the pels didn't make that trade.
Posted by duyp
Member since May 2011
3293 posts
Posted on 2/26/23 at 12:32 am to
Agreed. I remember they said we were interested in him also. He would have helped us but instead he’s helping the Lakers.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 2/26/23 at 1:11 am to
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will never understand why the pels didn't make that trade
Seems the Jazz prioritized getting off the Conley contract more than an additional 1st, and we really didnt a single contract that could do that.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
13562 posts
Posted on 2/26/23 at 12:30 pm to
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Heavily protected 1st


It’s just top 4 protected, I wouldnt call that heavily protected. But Ainge should have done better. Maybe top 2. Kinda suprised with him.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11104 posts
Posted on 2/26/23 at 2:58 pm to
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People also never seem to understand we couldn't offer him any where near what he got so why are we even talking about him with the Pelicans?


But we traded for Favors making 17M+, the signed Reddick as a FA making over 13M..?

BTW, I am loving the appreciation of Randle. Even if it is years after he deserved it..
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 2/26/23 at 3:00 pm to
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But we traded for Favors making 17M+, the signed Reddick as a FA making over 13M..?
Correct, though not sure what that has to do with not being able to offer Randle near $20mil?
Posted by longhorn22
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Posted on 2/26/23 at 5:20 pm to
Lol a Pels forum and a Malik Beasley thread

This forum continues to light it up
Posted by longhorn22
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Member since Jan 2007
42880 posts
Posted on 2/26/23 at 5:21 pm to
In a game where Malik Beasley shot

2/11 from 3

Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11104 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 4:25 am to
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Correct, though not sure what that has to do with not being able to offer Randle near $20mil?


We had cap space. We could have beaten or matched the offer by the Knicks. The team didn't want Randle (probably cause of his ties to Davis) and let him walk for nothing..
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112568 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 9:31 am to
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We had cap space. We could have beaten or matched the offer by the Knicks. The team didn't want Randle (probably cause of his ties to Davis) and let him walk for nothing..

I'm not even gonna bother explaining it to you because it's been done probably a dozen times, and you ignore it each time.

EVerything you just said is wrong. We could not have offered Randle anywhere near what he got. Again, not worth wasting my time explaining, but I'll just say, the sooner you realize that and read and comprehend what people tell you, the less you'll get ridiculed for bad takes, because you've repeated this bad take over and over and over and over, and it makes you look a bit silly since the answer in detail has been given you to multiple times and you ignore it and then post the same incorrect thing as you're doing here.
This post was edited on 2/27/23 at 9:32 am
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11104 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 12:18 pm to
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EVerything you just said is wrong. We could not have offered Randle anywhere near what he got. Again, not worth wasting my time explaining, but I'll just say, the sooner you realize that and read and comprehend what people tell you, the less you'll get ridiculed for bad takes, because you've repeated this bad take over and over and over and over, and it makes you look a bit silly since the answer in detail has been given you to multiple times and you ignore it and then post the same incorrect thing as you're doing here.


I have never seen anyone ever say that we didn't sign him cause we didn't have the money or space. I have seen people say he sucked or the Knicks overpaid. But never what you are proposing. So I will ask you to please explain it to again, if you have done it previously.

I do understand he was a FA and we did not have bird rights. But we had a ton of cap space to sign him outright. Why couldn't we?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463726 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 12:24 pm to
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I have never seen anyone ever say that we didn't sign him cause we didn't have the money or space

We talked about it on this board at length.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 12:30 pm to
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But we had a ton of cap space to sign him outright. Why couldn't we?


They used it to bring in JJ and Favors. One of the top reasons not to keep Randle was he and Zion hunted in largely the same space.

Hindsight says Randle could have been pretty useful the past several years, but that's only because of the injuries. Pretty much any complaint about the last 4 years could be shut down by Zion being healthy. He hasn't been, so it makes all these "we should have done this or that" seem legit. But probably the main ones that are legit would be, we should have drafted Garland/put more on the table for Turner, and we shouldn't have hired SVG. Although I think you can argue that SVG paved the way for the team being so receptive to Willie, so even that could be debatable.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11104 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 12:49 pm to
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They used it to bring in JJ and Favors.


That's different than we couldn't afford it. Choosing other people isn't the same thing.

I think they are talking about something different, with his birds rights and the 120%. But that doesn't stop a team with cap space from signing someone. The Bucks had a similar thing with Lopez, where they could onoy offer him 4M or so a year. But they got around it. So I'm interested to hear if it was something like that they are referencing.

I don't believe there was any interest, from the Pelicans, in bringing him back. So it's all a moot point. I have honestly just never heard about a financial obstacle..
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