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Lonzo more 3 attempts than JJ last night
Posted on 11/25/19 at 8:23 am
Posted on 11/25/19 at 8:23 am
This is at least the second time this season this has happened. The green light approach needs to be more of a yellow light approach.
Posted on 11/25/19 at 8:32 am to JSRG123
34.3% on 6.4 attempts a game.
That's fricking gross. He doesnt get to the line. He doesnt drive effectively to the basket anymore.
Dude is lost out there.
That's fricking gross. He doesnt get to the line. He doesnt drive effectively to the basket anymore.
Dude is lost out there.
Posted on 11/25/19 at 8:44 am to whatiknowsofar
I really thought he would be the steal of the trade, but holy shite, his game is terrible. He belongs in the 90s. He can't cut it in today's game and should not be on the floor for more than 6 minutes a game.
Posted on 11/25/19 at 8:48 am to saints5021
He actually drives a little more now, but when he does he gets glassed. It is ugly right now
Posted on 11/25/19 at 8:57 am to JSRG123
He's actually shooting better from 3 than he did with LA, so there is some progression at least
He's still carving out his role on the team - it's too soon to jump ship since at minimum he can actually defend. Lawd knows our defense is an abomination.
He's still carving out his role on the team - it's too soon to jump ship since at minimum he can actually defend. Lawd knows our defense is an abomination.
Posted on 11/25/19 at 9:09 am to JSRG123
I haven't been watching much so far. But I'd imagine with his improved 3 point shot he is trying to figure out a balance between taking that and driving. As well as what his role on the team is. It is something that will take time to figure out.
That said, I will admit that I was wrong in thinking that Ball would be the better piece of the trade.
That said, I will admit that I was wrong in thinking that Ball would be the better piece of the trade.
Posted on 11/25/19 at 9:12 am to JSRG123
I don't necessarily have an issue with the 3's. Hes hitting a not horrible %, and in today's nba, he needs to take them. At 35%, you still have to shoot, just maybe not 7 3s.
It's the ones where he jacks it up with 16 seconds left on the shot clock and it's not wide open. Bro, that isnt your game.
When hes standing on the wing or corner, and someone else brings the ball up, and gives him the first pass, you know it's going up, and those are the ones that he needs to cut out of his game. That would also get his 3pt attempts to where they need to be.
It's the ones where he jacks it up with 16 seconds left on the shot clock and it's not wide open. Bro, that isnt your game.
When hes standing on the wing or corner, and someone else brings the ball up, and gives him the first pass, you know it's going up, and those are the ones that he needs to cut out of his game. That would also get his 3pt attempts to where they need to be.
This post was edited on 11/25/19 at 9:14 am
Posted on 11/25/19 at 9:13 am to Pendulum
His shot looks like it has AIDS.
Posted on 11/25/19 at 9:14 am to Pendulum
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It's the ones where he jacks it up with 16 seconds left on the shot clock and it's not wide open.
I agree - I think the idea is that are doing psychological retooling with him - they want him to feel confident and aggressive by giving him the green light, especially since the scoring burden is higher without Zion.
I would think they will be trying to reign in some of the bad shots after a certain period of time.
Posted on 11/25/19 at 9:25 am to Billy Mays
I think we need to bring Lavar back...his kid looks lost without him.
Posted on 11/25/19 at 10:12 am to JSRG123
he doesnt know how to probe. "driving" doesnt alway mean a straight line and go up. It's getting into the lane to draw the defense and find the right pass or shot
Zo thinks "driving" is full speed to the rim.
Zo thinks "driving" is full speed to the rim.
Posted on 11/25/19 at 10:22 am to saints5021
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His shot looks like it has AIDS.
Posted on 11/25/19 at 10:38 am to JSRG123
That's because they were daring Zo to shoot and they were all over Redick. Uncle Al got outcoached last night and we are desperately missing Favors on defense.
Posted on 11/25/19 at 10:56 am to Billy Mays
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it's too soon to jump ship since at minimum he can actually defend.
In theory, maybe. Last year, maybe. He's not defending well this year, though.
Posted on 11/25/19 at 11:36 am to GOP_Tiger
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In theory, maybe. Last year, maybe. He's not defending well this year, though.
Yeah the advanced metrics say as such. It's tough to say if it's all on him this year or a systemic team issue - we may just be a broken team defensively overall.
I'd imagine Lonzo is finding it harder to defend when the entire opposition has so much more space to operate.
This post was edited on 11/25/19 at 11:49 am
Posted on 11/25/19 at 11:42 am to JSRG123
In 17-18, Boogie averaged six attempts on 35% and all Uncle Al did was tell the media he wanted him to shoot it more.
So I wouldn’t expect the green light to stop anytime soon.
So I wouldn’t expect the green light to stop anytime soon.
Posted on 11/25/19 at 11:54 am to bouxdag
It’s 1.03 PPP. As a team, we are at 1.076 PPP. So it’s an inefficient shot for him to be taking so many.
We are not using Lonzo correctly. He needs to be in more high PNR, but Jax being the only healthy center limits what we can do. He should also lead the transition offense more. Jrue has been pretty bad running the break, he needs to let Lonzo take over that role even if he gets the rebound.
I’ll be interested in seeing if they can find a better role for Lonzo when Zion gets back.
We are not using Lonzo correctly. He needs to be in more high PNR, but Jax being the only healthy center limits what we can do. He should also lead the transition offense more. Jrue has been pretty bad running the break, he needs to let Lonzo take over that role even if he gets the rebound.
I’ll be interested in seeing if they can find a better role for Lonzo when Zion gets back.
This post was edited on 11/25/19 at 11:56 am
Posted on 11/25/19 at 1:13 pm to JSRG123
Lonzo benefits the absolute most to Zion's return. I think we can be patient here but I do think it's something he should adjust moving forward.
Posted on 11/25/19 at 1:21 pm to JSRG123
I don't know what Lonzo is as a player and I don't think he does as well.
He wants, desperately, to be a superstar scorer type player and he isn't.
He needs to be a guy that sets up the offense, gets into the paint, either takes it to the rim or passes it for the pick and roll or pop.
But he doesn't do any of that often.
He wants, desperately, to be a superstar scorer type player and he isn't.
He needs to be a guy that sets up the offense, gets into the paint, either takes it to the rim or passes it for the pick and roll or pop.
But he doesn't do any of that often.
Posted on 11/25/19 at 1:47 pm to MrJimBeam
I would like people that keep saying Lonzo will benefit from Zion to be specific about how he will benefit from it.
Watch Lonzo without the ball on offense. He does much of nothing. How does Zion's presence make his stagnant off ball offense better?
Lonzo could be running pick and rolls with Jaxson all day, yet he doesn't. How is Zion's presence going to make him a better pick and roll player? We've seen really good passes from him out of some pick and rolls, but they are far and few in between.
Lonzo makes very little effort to ever get around his defender and into the paint. How is Zion's presence going to make him more aggressive, which he's never been in his 3 years in league?
At this point, i don't see how he ever becomes better offensively from a scoring standpoint. His refusal to penetrate will always limit him to being a shooter, which he isn't that good at.
The only thing I see him benefiting from is hopefully he cuts down on his stupid 3's, and gets more open 3's with Zion on the floor.
I used to hate the Ryno turn around fade away more than anything, but Lonzo's step back 3 and his pull my hands down as fast as possible after the release 3 is a thousand times more irritating. He's not Harden, and he's not Curry. Trying to pretend to shoot like them is something a high school idiot would do, not guys in the NBA. Just take a high percentage three you moron. You're not good enough to be cocky about it, and this isn't an AAU game.
Watch Lonzo without the ball on offense. He does much of nothing. How does Zion's presence make his stagnant off ball offense better?
Lonzo could be running pick and rolls with Jaxson all day, yet he doesn't. How is Zion's presence going to make him a better pick and roll player? We've seen really good passes from him out of some pick and rolls, but they are far and few in between.
Lonzo makes very little effort to ever get around his defender and into the paint. How is Zion's presence going to make him more aggressive, which he's never been in his 3 years in league?
At this point, i don't see how he ever becomes better offensively from a scoring standpoint. His refusal to penetrate will always limit him to being a shooter, which he isn't that good at.
The only thing I see him benefiting from is hopefully he cuts down on his stupid 3's, and gets more open 3's with Zion on the floor.
I used to hate the Ryno turn around fade away more than anything, but Lonzo's step back 3 and his pull my hands down as fast as possible after the release 3 is a thousand times more irritating. He's not Harden, and he's not Curry. Trying to pretend to shoot like them is something a high school idiot would do, not guys in the NBA. Just take a high percentage three you moron. You're not good enough to be cocky about it, and this isn't an AAU game.
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