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re: Let’s check in on Dyson
Posted on 4/29/26 at 10:48 am to Townedrunkard
Posted on 4/29/26 at 10:48 am to Townedrunkard
To me the biggest difference between Herb and DD is
DD is supposed to be a lead guard and defensive stopper. He does a lot of thing really well for 23 and with his cast, but shooting is not one of them.
Herb to me is the traditional stopper. He is usually the 4th or 5th offensive option, but is a threat offensively enough to have to guard him.
If I wanted to win now I would take Herb.
If I blew it up and started over I would take DD
DD is supposed to be a lead guard and defensive stopper. He does a lot of thing really well for 23 and with his cast, but shooting is not one of them.
Herb to me is the traditional stopper. He is usually the 4th or 5th offensive option, but is a threat offensively enough to have to guard him.
If I wanted to win now I would take Herb.
If I blew it up and started over I would take DD
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 12:02 pm to Split2874
quote:
If I wanted to win now I would take Herb.
If I blew it up and started over I would take DD
Absolutely right...& why Herb's trade value is much higher to a contending team than DD's is. Two great defenders with totally different offensive games.
I luv DD...and blame the Hawks for totally wasting an entire season for DD. IF...he is ever to come around & be playable come playoff time... he must learn to shoot from outside & even more importantly, be willing to take the shot. No reason, given the Hawks current situation with a ceiling of maybe making the playoffs but then ousted in the 1st round, that they shouldn't FORCE DD to shoot the 3...at least 35-40% of his total shots taken.
DD shot the three 15.1% of his shots. Herb was 54.2%...I don't really care how poorly DD shot the three...he just MUST be willing to take the shot...when it's there.
The LAST thing DD wants to do...is shoot the three. The FIRST thing Herb wants to do...is shoot the three. This must change...for DD. It's pretty simple.
Posted on 4/29/26 at 3:10 pm to Townedrunkard
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No it’s that many posters like Shel and WhatIDontknow went all in on DD never amounting to anything and saying Hawkins was the better prospect and should be kept, then moved on to Herb being the better player and shoukd have been kept, then went on to DD would never start in the league, then to he woukd never be in a rotation on a playoff team, to he’d never start on a playoff team, to now he won’t ever finish the 4th quarter on a playoff team. It’s just contact goal post moving until they can get a W.
Lol so everyone has different takes and you interpret that as goalpost shifting? Do you hear yourself?
I didnt say half of those things, you are just grasping straws all over.
quote:
They have lost every battle
You have lost every battle with dyson. He had a great stretch to finish the year better than Herb and thats it. His minutes are getting cut in the playoffs because his one elite skill isnt good enough to stop Brunson. He IS a liability on the court, the coaches see that, and he sits the bench.
You bring up basic counting stats acting like he plays well then ignore every other metric shel and I show that very easily prove you wrong. You then shift the goalpost to oh hes still so young. Lol well when is he going to figure it out? Year 5?
Starting next year hes on a worse deal than Herb.
Posted on 4/29/26 at 4:24 pm to Townedrunkard
quote:So 4 games when he played horrible, you never called out anything other than plus/minus. The 5th game he has an actual decent looking statline and horrible plus/minus, so you ignore plus/minus and only call out stats?
Suprised you even came post since he was the 2nd leading scorer in those 25 mins of a playoff game
You admitted you aren't even watching, he was bad last night. Your'e a boxscore watcher, seems like you kinda admitted you were just a casual fan. I've listened to multiple podcasts calling out how useless he was last night and how many possessions he wasted by passing up open lanes to pass to covered dudes or to pass to a wide open Tony Bradly which is useless.
quote:Guess you're trying to ignore the stuff you don't like for 5 straight games, huh?
Guess you trying to get in front of it huh.
it's just funny as every basketball talking head is talking about how terrible Dyson has been this entire series, and you STILL refuse to say he's been bad, and you've actually tried to argue he's been the Hawks most effective player
Posted on 4/29/26 at 4:25 pm to whatiknowsofar
quote:Basically every basketball fan in the world knows Dyson has been one of the worst rotation players in these playoffs...except for 1 guy.
You keep losing this battle. Dyson played the fewest minutes because the Hawks are better with him off the court.
Posted on 4/29/26 at 4:26 pm to Split2874
quote:He admitted it after I believe last game.
I am getting the feeling Town does not watch the games, just reads the box scores.
Posted on 4/29/26 at 4:29 pm to Dantheman504
quote:He's been one of the worst rotation players in these playoffs, and that isn't remotely dramatic.
In all seriousness I think both of them are being dramatic. Dyson isn't playing great but he still just turned 23.
It's obvious and being pointed out everywhere how awful he's been.
quote:Who is "y'all?"
Y'all chose to argue keeping Hawk > Dyson solely due to offensive potential, might have been the dumbest take on this board.
Are you doing the thing where you just make up stuff in your head that never happened again?
quote:Calling out someone for poor play isn't an "attack." And his game last night is wide being panned not just on this board. You would know if you watched, but it sounds like you're also just doing boxscore watching.
Also the needle keeps moving... "Dyson can't shoot even if he does everything else well". "Even though Dyson shot well and had 17pts I'll still find a way to attack him".
Posted on 4/30/26 at 7:15 pm to Demps
D.D. defenders? Where you at?
Posted on 4/30/26 at 7:33 pm to Demps
Town is trying to justify a -36 +/- as not that bad because its only the 2nd worst on the team or some dumb shite
Posted on 4/30/26 at 7:38 pm to Demps
Ejected...
Pretty fitting ending to just an absolute nightmare of a series for Dyson. I'm not sure it could have gone much worse.
Pretty fitting ending to just an absolute nightmare of a series for Dyson. I'm not sure it could have gone much worse.
Posted on 4/30/26 at 7:43 pm to Demps
quote:Saying he's been the best Hawks player in this series
D.D. defenders? Where you at?
This post was edited on 4/30/26 at 7:44 pm
Posted on 4/30/26 at 7:44 pm to whatiknowsofar
quote:He'll find out later on when he checks the box score.
Town is trying to justify a -36 +/- as not that bad because its only the 2nd worst on the team or some dumb shite
Posted on 4/30/26 at 9:33 pm to shel311
DD needs to work on shots in and around the key. No reason he should not back down Brunson and score.
Atl is not as good as I thought they were, it appears to be the Knicks were not playing well.
Atl is not as good as I thought they were, it appears to be the Knicks were not playing well.
Posted on 4/30/26 at 9:56 pm to shel311
And Jose & DQ making fun of him . LOL
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Posted on 4/30/26 at 9:57 pm to Split2874
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DD needs to work on shots in and around the key. No reason he should not back down Brunson and score.
Atl is not as good as I thought they were, it appears to be the Knicks were not playing well.
Hawks were nowhere near as good as many thought. Hawks were actually trying during regular season while so many teams were tanking...be very interesting to see how teams look next season...when NOBODY wants to tank to the point they could possibly finish in the bottom 3.
Posted on 4/30/26 at 10:17 pm to Dinky Mulberry
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Hawks were actually trying during regular season while so many teams were tanking...be very interesting to see how teams look next season...when NOBODY wants to tank to the point they could possibly finish in the bottom 3.
We were actually trying during regular season . . . and still tanked.
Posted on 4/30/26 at 11:45 pm to ned nederlander
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Hawks were actually trying during regular season while so many teams were tanking...be very interesting to see how teams look next season...when NOBODY wants to tank to the point they could possibly finish in the bottom 3.
We were actually trying during regular season . . . and still tanked.
We have quite a few losers on our team...and very few winners. I just don't see an answer to our problems...other than a total rebuild
Posted on 5/1/26 at 1:40 pm to Demps
Posted on 5/1/26 at 2:26 pm to Demps
DD had a -36 he was 4th worst
I wonder what set off Robinson. He seemed somewhat chill at first
Watching the fight over both teams really handled it well. Everyone was trying to stop the fight. No one left the bench. Plus Robinson and Daniel's kept it between them.
I wonder what set off Robinson. He seemed somewhat chill at first
Watching the fight over both teams really handled it well. Everyone was trying to stop the fight. No one left the bench. Plus Robinson and Daniel's kept it between them.
This post was edited on 5/1/26 at 2:33 pm
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