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Posted by LesGeaux45
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/31/19 at 7:28 am to
You also combine that with his lack of Bird Rights and the low offers make sense. I guess we're not attempting to take on salary to get a 1st and a young guy in that case. Oh well.
Posted by PelicanFever
Member since Jun 2017
135 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 7:35 am to
Question:

If the Pels and Celtics agree to the framework by the deadline, can that sort of trade be publicly announced or leaked as a verbal agreement?

Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
29817 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 7:36 am to
Appreciate the update.
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
37154 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 7:36 am to
Thx Crewzy!
Posted by dgtiger3
Prairieville
Member since Sep 2005
5703 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 7:39 am to
quote:

Question: 

If the Pels and Celtics agree to the framework by the deadline, can that sort of trade be publicly announced or leaked as a verbal agreement? 



Maybe something vaque like the Celtics and Pelicans feel comfortable they can make a deal this off-season... They aren't going to leak players they are depending on this season.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 1/31/19 at 7:44 am to
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My source also said a wall of text

I don't think you understand what a wall of text is.
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no real value

You're just being fickle
quote:

new information

The lack of interest in 3 of our better pieces is interesting and verifies what some were already thinking. That said, the statement about Randle is definitely new. I didn't realize the coaches have no interest in keeping him around.
Posted by DallasTiger45
Member since May 2012
8734 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 7:47 am to
I’m actually happy teams aren’t really interested in Niko. Hopefully his market is depressed and we can re-sign him at an affordable price in the offseason
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
29817 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 7:53 am to
I don’t really want to trade Niko unless it nets us something real a positive for next year.

I would hope we could get something for taking on a bad contract from Washington or Charlotte. That’s where Randle and/or Wesley need to go.
This post was edited on 1/31/19 at 8:09 am
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 7:56 am to
What that idiot doesn't understand is nothing works the way he thinks it does. If you put Loomis or Dell or Ferry, insert person here under truth serum and said, "Okay, tell me what moves you are going to make!"

They would say, "I don't know" and it would be the truth. Literally nobody - even the top decision makers can tell you with certainty what is going to happen in this next week. And the people who tell you otherwise -- that act certain, THOSE are the liars.
Posted by SLafourche07
Member since Feb 2008
10040 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 8:02 am to
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The lack of interest in 3 of our better pieces is interesting and verifies what some were already thinking




I think the lack of interest is more about their contracts.


Randle has no Bird Rights attached and is essentially an expiring. Not enticing.

Niko is expiring and we probably wouldn't mind re-signing him so we're not as motivated to move him. If he still had a few years on his deal we would probably get some nice offers.

Moore is a nice piece but not really a needle mover. His value is more in adding on to a bigger deal.
Posted by SLafourche07
Member since Feb 2008
10040 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 8:06 am to
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If you put Loomis or Dell or Ferry, insert person here under truth serum and said, "Okay, tell me what moves you are going to make!"




What about:

"Tell me your preferred trade partners and list the assets you'd hope to get back!!"?
Posted by Machine
Earth
Member since May 2011
6001 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 8:09 am to
not sure how the league will feel about shutting down an uninjured superstar player in February, but i guess we shall see.

i guess that finger injury could end up becoming way more serious than once thought...
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17410 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 8:09 am to
Niko with his bird rights should be very attractive for a contender without cap space though..

Like if I'm the Bucks I'm trying to send Brogdon and salary for Niko, or 76'ers straight Fultz/Niko swap (maybe ask for a couple 2nds from the Pels)
Posted by Pelefraan 1
Member since Jan 2018
6706 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 8:12 am to
Are you saying Fultz has more trade value than Niko?

Fultz has negative trade value right now. He can't even get on the court. And his shot is broken
This post was edited on 1/31/19 at 8:13 am
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 8:15 am to
They would have those answers and I know some of those things.

But they are kind of juggling multiple things right now. Ideally, they would love to get the framework with Boston finalized. Because then they can look at that and say - You know, we aren't getting a 4 in the trade and/or we aren't getting much shooting - keeping Niko makes more sense than flipping him for an expiring and a late first.

Conversely, maybe you work a deal with Boston and they say - we will take Rozier and the Clippers first and go get you a big you like, then put him in the package in July. Now, you don't need Niko and recoup that first you won't be getting anymore from Boston by moving Niko.

There are so many possibilities and quite frankly, the quicker they agree to a framework with Boston, the more they can focus on the other stuff. But as I pointed out, there are uncontrollable variables in dealing with Boston and that makes this stuff so much more complicated that most can imagine
Posted by slutiger5
Parroquias de Florida
Member since May 2007
11845 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 8:16 am to
I thought Boston was impacted by the derrick rose rule and not in contention till the summer.
Posted by SLafourche07
Member since Feb 2008
10040 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 8:18 am to
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Niko with his bird rights should be very attractive for a contender without cap space though..



If they feel Niko puts them over the hump. If not and he leaves in the offseason then you gave up a contributing piece for a half year rental.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 8:20 am to
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there are uncontrollable variables in dealing with Boston and that makes this stuff so much more complicated that most can imagine


Are you saying Boston needs to put enough on the table for the Pels to not care if the Knicks get #1 pick to move forward? Or would they agree to a deal and hope the 14% chance that happens doesn't derail the deal?
This post was edited on 1/31/19 at 8:21 am
Posted by Loaner1231
Member since Jan 2016
3903 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 8:22 am to
quote:

i guess that finger injury could end up becoming way more serious than once thought...


No one in the Association would bat an eye with the Pelicans injury/rehab history. Outside of Wolvereke, sprained ankles have become damn near career ending events.
Posted by SLafourche07
Member since Feb 2008
10040 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 8:25 am to
quote:


Are you saying Boston needs to put enough on the table for the Pels to not care if the Knicks get #1 pick to move forward? Or would they agree to a deal and hope the 14% chance that happens doesn't derail the deal?




And that goes both ways. We agree in principle. NYK gets the 1st. Do we now have leverage to re-negotiate?

We agree. NYK doesn't get the #1. Do they now have leverage?


Maybe we need to agree to 2 deals.
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