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re: Lakers pursuing Dan Hurley
Posted on 6/6/24 at 9:03 am to ghost2most
Posted on 6/6/24 at 9:03 am to ghost2most
Make LeBron’s arse player-coach then hold him accountable.
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Posted on 6/6/24 at 9:09 am to saintslsupels
Well I wish the pels hired him but at the same time this might increase the chances of Lebron going to Phoenix right
Posted on 6/6/24 at 9:12 am to Balsamic_duck
quote:Exactly the concern. He is fantastic (which is why I would not want him to go to the Lakers). Not sure how the personalities on the Lakers would react to his style though and whether he should want to take that on.
Hurley is a god damn excellent coach. The only question i would have is how is he gonna handle going from being the boss of 18-22 year olds to handling the egos and personalities of NBA players. If he can handle that, then he's a homerun hire for any team.
Posted on 6/6/24 at 9:25 am to saintslsupels
perfect.
LSU should be in a position to fire McMahon right when he’s getting fired by the Lakers because 42 year old lebron isn’t winning them
a championship
LSU should be in a position to fire McMahon right when he’s getting fired by the Lakers because 42 year old lebron isn’t winning them
a championship
Posted on 6/6/24 at 9:56 am to Macintosh
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Well I wish the pels hired him but at the same time this might increase the chances of Lebron going to Phoenix right
Lebron raved about Hurley on his podcast with JJ. If you hate the lakers- you should be pissed because Hurley is a damn good coach. He will make that team better- and that sucks.
Posted on 6/6/24 at 10:04 am to Pels_Yaz
With how NIL works, you can argue it’s overall easier and less time consuming to be an nba coach than a college coach. You don’t have to be a fundraiser in the nba like you do in college.
Posted on 6/6/24 at 10:04 am to 50_Tiger
One dayLebron will hit the wall hard and fall off cliff, and no way AD stays as healthy as he did this past year. What lebron is doing is unprecedented.
This post was edited on 6/6/24 at 10:05 am
Posted on 6/6/24 at 10:07 am to Townedrunkard
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One dayLebron will hit the wall hard and fall off cliff, and no way AD stays as healthy as he did this past year. What lebron is doing is unprecedented.
I hope so but that really never happened with Brady. The only hope may be he just gets tired of it and calls it quits. His productivity this late in his career is just ridiculous.
Posted on 6/6/24 at 10:16 am to Parrish
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From a candidate that played in NBA but has no head coaching experience but is around NBA all the time to a candidate has neither played nor coached in the NBA but has multiple NCAA championships. That's quite a difference. I think it's really risky for the Lakers. Hiring coaches with limited professional league experience seems to fail more often than succeed. Coaching professionals is a completely different experience. With some exceptions like Billy Donovan we've seen many examples like Steve Spurrier, Nick Saban, and Rick Pitino really struggle. struggle.
I think Hurley will be the exception. Like Donovan most of his players have some
NBA pedigree. Hes not just recruiting coach but a great tactical coach unlike Pitino. He also isn’t a huge control freak. Saban and Spurrier were control freaks and football is different. Now the Lakers are a tough gig but hes a very good head coach so I wouldn’t bet against him.
Posted on 6/6/24 at 10:18 am to saintslsupels
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You don’t have to be a fundraiser in the nba like you do in college.
OTOH, an NBA coach tends to be the most disposable employee of an organization.
An NCAA coach can be disposable but player turnover is different at that level. Even with NILs you aren’t ending up with a John Wall mega contract you are forced to play.
Posted on 6/6/24 at 10:21 am to teke184
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Even with NILs you aren’t ending up with a John Wall mega contract you are forced to play.
I would argue some teams with bigger recruits are forced to play those type of guys. But to Hurleys credit they don’t get those type of guys at Uconn as much. Those guys get developed into nba players there.
Posted on 6/6/24 at 10:44 am to 50_Tiger
quote:In fairness, if they add another star with Lebron and AD and Redick is the coach, there is also no shot the pick will be any good.
Hurley with LeBum and AD, plus another star = no shot that pick will be any good. So you sell at its highest point which is now.
College coaches have a similar track record of lack of success as a 1st time Head Coach. The odds that Hurley comes in and has it all under control immeidately, especially on a Lebron team....slim to none in year 1.
The idea that the difference between Hurley and Redick is a bunch of wins and a ton of draft slots is silly.
Also, seems obvious Lebron wants Redick, so this move is the Lakers going against Lebron, which increases the odds that he either leaves or ups the normal Lebron antics up a few notches next season. He won't be happy if they don't hire this guy after getting this close, I can't see Lebron letting that go quietly.
This post was edited on 6/6/24 at 10:50 am
Posted on 6/6/24 at 10:46 am to Epic Cajun
quote:Nah.
Hurley would be an idiot to walk into that shitshow.
UConn isn't a college with unlimited resources. He can just get sooooooo much more money from the Lakers.
It can and maybe will be a shitshow, but it's a no brainer if they make a massive offer. Take the money, deal with the rest.
Posted on 6/6/24 at 10:48 am to Pels_Yaz
Still a chance Hurley could be leveraging this while thing to get a big contract from UConn. A LeBron head coach is one of the least secure positions in the nba. Also, Hurley has said he’s essentially a high school coach masquerading as a college coach, and he’s also said him and his wife are Jersey people that want to stay in the northeast. I don’t know how much he’s willing to change and no way LeBron wants a coach who’s going to make him play defense consistently.
Money talks though, depends on what the Lakers offer.
Money talks though, depends on what the Lakers offer.
This post was edited on 6/6/24 at 10:55 am
Posted on 6/6/24 at 11:01 am to Pels_Yaz
quote:
I think Hurley will be the exception. Like Donovan most of his players have some
NBA pedigree. Hes not just recruiting coach but a great tactical coach unlike Pitino. He also isn’t a huge control freak. Saban and Spurrier were control freaks and football is different. Now the Lakers are a tough gig but hes a very good head coach so I wouldn’t bet against him.
I think he is pretty hot headed and a control freak. From an article that praised him and suggested he take the Kentucky job but still pointed out the following:
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A coach who lost it with the officials every 30 seconds the entire night, complaining about every call or non-call that didn’t go his way. A 51-year-old with the sideline comportment of a toddler hooked to an IV full of Red Bull. A control freak who was dictating every dribble down to the last second as his son, Andrew, spiked the ball off the floor to end the final possession of UConn’s season. A hothead who had a bit of a stare down with Edey going into a timeout in the first half because he thought an illegal screen went uncalled by the officials.
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I just don't see Hurley's style working without changes, but he's also rightfully very self-confident so I'd question if, and why, he would to change.
Posted on 6/6/24 at 11:04 am to shel311
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Also, seems obvious Lebron wants Redick, so this move is the Lakers going against Lebron, which increases the odds that he either leaves or ups the normal Lebron antics up a few notches next season. He won't be happy if they don't hire this guy after getting this close, I can't see Lebron letting that go quietly.
I think Lebron through social media or even on JJs podcast has mentioned hes a big fan of Hurley. I agree I think he likes JJ but I don’t think hiring Hurley will make Lebron upset by any means. Now if they can’t win- things will change quick.
Posted on 6/6/24 at 11:13 am to Parrish
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I think he is pretty hot headed and a control freak. From an article that praised him and suggested he take the Kentucky job but still pointed out the following:
This seems to be a little exaggerated no?? Lol. A toddler hooked up to an IV full of red bull? What lol.
Hurley is a personality and a strong one. Someone who probably will challenge and expect Lebron and AD to fall in line. Something Ham could not do. He’ll also be animated, fiery and battle officials.
Now could this all blow up in his face- maybe. Or maybe his style is exactly what helps push them to be better. I personally think Hurley will be a good NBA coach- mainly do to his strategies and tactical approach. Which the writer below also mentions.
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Maybe he sees himself eventually leaving UConn for the NBA, a league where he would undeniably be able to match X’s and O’s with the best coaches in the world.
Posted on 6/6/24 at 11:18 am to Parrish
quote:Who cares about any of this?
A coach who lost it with the officials every 30 seconds the entire night, complaining about every call or non-call that didn’t go his way. A 51-year-old with the sideline comportment of a toddler hooked to an IV full of Red Bull. A control freak who was dictating every dribble down to the last second as his son, Andrew, spiked the ball off the floor to end the final possession of UConn’s season. A hothead who had a bit of a stare down with Edey going into a timeout in the first half because he thought an illegal screen went uncalled by the officials.
That's all entirely irrelevant. Results matter.
Also importan to point out, all that hot head stuff is towards refs...he's widely known as very much a player's coach, so it's not like that'll be an issue with NBA players, as he doesn't scream and yell and lose his shite on players, that's reserved for the refs.
And another thing, just because he controls more of the actions in college does not mean he won't adapt to the NBA. You should want to control every single player dribble and movement in college, they're college players, not NBA dudes.
Posted on 6/6/24 at 11:19 am to Townedrunkard
quote:well it won’t be next year which is all we care about
One dayLebron will hit the wall hard and fall off cliff, and no way AD stays as healthy as he did this past year. What lebron is doing is unprecedented.
This post was edited on 6/6/24 at 11:20 am
Posted on 6/6/24 at 11:32 am to shel311
The third star has to fit and then stay healthy. And they have to pray their role players are the correct fit as well.
Westbrick was a horrible fit and it dropped them into the lottery.
And the new cap rules make it much harder for them to aggregate salaries to get a star or work the buyout market if they reach certain thresholds.
Westbrick was a horrible fit and it dropped them into the lottery.
And the new cap rules make it much harder for them to aggregate salaries to get a star or work the buyout market if they reach certain thresholds.
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