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re: Jrue winning>>>Monty & CP3 winning
Posted on 7/4/21 at 2:22 pm to GOP_Tiger
Posted on 7/4/21 at 2:22 pm to GOP_Tiger
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I strongly disagree. The odds of Giannis forcing his way out of Milwaukee were always low.
Totally disagree. They almost all do if they don’t win a title. And Giannis winning a title means he stays there much longer. Maybe his career.
Not being able to keep role players? That hurts. But they still have Giannis. And that’s the only thing that matters.
Bucks getting swept, failing to make the ECF next year is absolute best case scenario.
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Posted on 7/4/21 at 2:25 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
Sounds like you have a bone to pick with Cp3. That’s fine baw. Not everyone does. He’s just as good a dude as Jrue. He’s just a fiery competitor and he’s not a bad person for that lol.
And Yes Cp3 will be considered better than AD, both, in terms of our franchise, and nba history in general.
Jrue’s a class act. Sure. But no more than a Monty or even a Chris Paul if you really dig into it.
And Yes Cp3 will be considered better than AD, both, in terms of our franchise, and nba history in general.
Jrue’s a class act. Sure. But no more than a Monty or even a Chris Paul if you really dig into it.
Posted on 7/4/21 at 2:30 pm to saintsfan22
I’m not rooting for the Bucks. I’m just saying what we have to hope for is nagging injury, declining vets, a clogged payroll and Brooklyn getting their shite together.
Posted on 7/4/21 at 2:47 pm to Fun Bunch
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I’ve seen some dumb things on this board but this is up there with the dumbest. The Bucks winning a title is catastrophic for us.
You follow up a critique with hyperbole. Unintentional comedy aside, this thread is about who you want to win, which former Pel you’re rooting for as a player/coach/person.
These Bucks picks are going to be flipped, likely collectively.
Catastrophic when we have a generational talent and an All Star sidekick? Don’t be so dramatic.
Posted on 7/4/21 at 2:49 pm to 3PieceSpicy
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Not everyone does. He’s just as good a dude as Jrue.
Lol, he’s a well known politician in the league that bends the rules when it suits him. And a dirty flopping player to boot.
Jrue is twice the man of integrity Paul is.
Posted on 7/4/21 at 2:58 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
The main reason I want CP3 to lose is that I have hated his State Farm ads for years. I doubt they go away anytime soon, but if he wins a title, I expect to see them a decade from now, and I just don't know if I can handle that.
Posted on 7/4/21 at 3:08 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
Such a weird argument.
Monty, CP3, and Jrue are all incredibly high character human beings in life. CP3 maintained a home and charity work here for years after moving to LA. Spent a chunk of the offseason in New Orleans doing Katrina and basketball camp related stuff after leaving.
Jrue has been the epitome of put your money where your mouth is and donated a huge chunk of his salary the other year to BLM and other civil rights causes. Has been a major charity contributor throughout his career and an exceptional family man(as has CP in that regard).
Monty’s story is pretty notorious at this point. Model citizen, huge community involvement, overcame one of the worst tragedies a person can experience.
I’m just glad all of them are at this point. They all deserve a ring and while the cold calculating part of me hopes it’s the Suns because of the draft picks, I can’t say I won’t be happy if Jrue gets to hold the trophy at the end of the series either.
Monty, CP3, and Jrue are all incredibly high character human beings in life. CP3 maintained a home and charity work here for years after moving to LA. Spent a chunk of the offseason in New Orleans doing Katrina and basketball camp related stuff after leaving.
Jrue has been the epitome of put your money where your mouth is and donated a huge chunk of his salary the other year to BLM and other civil rights causes. Has been a major charity contributor throughout his career and an exceptional family man(as has CP in that regard).
Monty’s story is pretty notorious at this point. Model citizen, huge community involvement, overcame one of the worst tragedies a person can experience.
I’m just glad all of them are at this point. They all deserve a ring and while the cold calculating part of me hopes it’s the Suns because of the draft picks, I can’t say I won’t be happy if Jrue gets to hold the trophy at the end of the series either.
This post was edited on 7/4/21 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 7/4/21 at 3:14 pm to GOP_Tiger
quote:They started the season 21-6 when healthy
How did the Lakers do this year? Did they ever look hungry?
Posted on 7/4/21 at 3:14 pm to 3PieceSpicy
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And Yes Cp3 will be considered better than AD
Sadly this is true. Anthony Davis completely disrespected this franchise. The sad thing is AD achieved his goal his first year he left us. Paul may never.
Posted on 7/4/21 at 3:54 pm to 3PieceSpicy
Naw man, CP3 has been an a-hole for a long time. He's an awesome a-hole.
But he shows his arse in games, and treats other players and Coaches with disrespect when he feels like it. Makes smirks and mocks folks. Mocked Steve Kerr during a playoff game one season that made ESPN.
Jrue would never do some of his antics. Facts.
But he shows his arse in games, and treats other players and Coaches with disrespect when he feels like it. Makes smirks and mocks folks. Mocked Steve Kerr during a playoff game one season that made ESPN.
Jrue would never do some of his antics. Facts.
Posted on 7/4/21 at 4:14 pm to P bean
The two could be the biggest buttfricks on the planet. They aren’t Pelicans any more who cares. Once a player is gone they are just another player to me.
I don’t give two shits about a player once they are gone. I only care about how it affects the Pels.
And the Bucks winning a title is awful for us. There’s no way to interpret it otherwise. Any argument to the contrary is naive optimistic poppycock.
I don’t give two shits about a player once they are gone. I only care about how it affects the Pels.
And the Bucks winning a title is awful for us. There’s no way to interpret it otherwise. Any argument to the contrary is naive optimistic poppycock.
Posted on 7/4/21 at 5:13 pm to Fun Bunch
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And the Bucks winning a title is awful for us. There’s no way to interpret it otherwise. Any argument to the contrary is naive optimistic poppycock.
To believe that those picks or more accurately this years title team will effect a pick that’s already been slotted is ridiculous.
This post was edited on 7/4/21 at 5:15 pm
Posted on 7/4/21 at 5:21 pm to saintsfan22
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Jrue winning is bad for our picks, even if they are way down the line, so obviously the Suns. If Giannis is knocking on 30 without a title there's no way he's staying there and that's a not FA destination team. He wins one now and he might say "frick it I'll stay and at least be Dirk" and they keep all our picks in the mid 20s.
At this point does it matter after they got to the finals?
They have the team to get to the finals every year. Doesn't really matter if they lose in the finals.
That will make him want to come back the next year and add to the team.
Posted on 7/4/21 at 5:24 pm to Chalkywhite84
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At this point does it matter after they got to the finals?
It’s based on regular season record. Winning the finals wouldn’t matter as much as finishing with the best record in the league.
Posted on 7/4/21 at 5:29 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
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It’s based on regular season record. Winning the finals wouldn’t matter as much as finishing with the best record in the league.
He was talking about giannis leaving. Why would giannis leave if they are in the thick of it every year with this team?
My point is it doesn't really matter whether they win it all or not after making it to the finals.
He will be back next year whether they win or not.
Posted on 7/4/21 at 5:44 pm to Chalkywhite84
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At this point does it matter after they got to the finals?
They have the team to get to the finals every year. Doesn't really matter if they lose in the finals.
That will make him want to come back the next year and add to the team.
If Brooklyn's 2/3rds healthy the Bucks would be fighting like hell to get to 6 games against them next season. Lose in the Finals this year then lose in the ECF next season and he won't be thinking "well we were close last year". They also don't have much money to work with to add to team until after 2023.
I don't think at all he'll force out after this year, nor do I want him to, I want him out after 23 or 24 season.
This post was edited on 7/4/21 at 5:47 pm
Posted on 7/4/21 at 8:06 pm to mmonro3
I don’t think it’s sad that Cp3 will be considered better than AD, it’s just simply what is deserved if you look at the numbers, team success, overall character, likability, etc.
And AD may have got what he wanted, but I don’t think it elevated his legacy to win a ship as a clear cut number 2 to a 35 year old in a bubble championship series that half the league didn’t even want to play in. I think the national media actually looks at AD as lesser now that he’s playing in Los Angeles. Everyone gets to see how much of a pussy he is every night, vs when he was hidden away in New Orleans and as good as he was PER wise, he was also a big reason why we never achieved anything of substance while he was here.
And AD may have got what he wanted, but I don’t think it elevated his legacy to win a ship as a clear cut number 2 to a 35 year old in a bubble championship series that half the league didn’t even want to play in. I think the national media actually looks at AD as lesser now that he’s playing in Los Angeles. Everyone gets to see how much of a pussy he is every night, vs when he was hidden away in New Orleans and as good as he was PER wise, he was also a big reason why we never achieved anything of substance while he was here.
Posted on 7/4/21 at 11:45 pm to 3PieceSpicy
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I don’t think it’s sad that Cp3 will be considered better than AD, it’s just simply what is deserved if you look at the numbers, team success, overall character, likability, etc.
CP3 isn’t likable and AD puts up killer numbers.
CP3 has played with far better talent save OKC than AD.
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And AD may have got what he wanted, but I don’t think it elevated his legacy to win a ship as a clear cut number 2 to a 35 year old in a bubble championship series that half the league didn’t even want to play in
He was their leading scorer in the regular season and postseason as well as the reason they were good.
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Everyone gets to see how much of a pussy he is every night, vs when he was hidden away in New Orleans and as good as he was PER wise, he was also a big reason why we never achieved anything of substance while he was here.
His team got blown off the court without him this year.
Nothing you said had any validity to it. Please reframe your arguement.
Posted on 7/5/21 at 12:15 am to 3PieceSpicy
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And AD may have got what he wanted, but I don’t think it elevated his legacy to win a ship as a clear cut number 2 to a 35 year old in a bubble championship series that half the league didn’t even want to play in. I think the national media actually looks at AD as lesser now that he’s playing in Los Angeles. Everyone gets to see how much of a pussy he is every night, vs when he was hidden away in New Orleans and as good as he was PER wise, he was also a big reason why we never achieved anything of substance while he was here.
AD's legacy is that of a guy like Chris Bosh and Kevin Love, lost admist all of the other things going on in the league.
Its clear he isn't the franchise superstar, face of the NBA. While guys like giannis, KD, etc are continuing to be there while AD is in the massive shaddow of LeBron.
Posted on 7/5/21 at 12:23 am to ThanosIsADemocrat
CP3 is tremendously likable and even if he isn’t to a few people that have a personal vendetta against him, he’s still infinitely more likable and marketable than AD. Cp3 is on almost every commercial and it’s been that way for a decade. If he was terrible or unlikable, he wouldn’t have as many very public endorsements as he does. AD isn’t likable. Never has been. Never will be. He doesn't get eyeballs, draw viewership, influence sales, etc. No one and I mean no one really gives a frick about AD.
CP3 has played with far better talent. Perhaps, but he turned New Orleans, Clippers, OKC and Phoenix all into winners and in some instances he did it in 1 year. AD couldn’t turn New Orleans into a winner for 6 years and we had a shitload of talent some of those years, including the final year when he quit on the franchise.
In the 2 years AD has been with Lebron, he has a negative plus minus without Lebron with him on the court and Lebron has a positive one without AD on the court. You can toss the entire Phoenix series out of the window. Cp3 was injured from game 1 on, Lebron was hobbled all series, and obviously AD went down as well. There can be no conclusions drawn from that series other than the one we all already knew. AD and his body is soft. Injuries are not a matter of it with him, it’s a matter of when. So to celebrate the fact that maybe just maybe the Lakers would’ve beaten Phoenix led by a hobbled, ancient Chris Paul if AD was fully healthy, seems like a weird thing to hang your hat on when comping the legacies of the 2 players.
Cp is going to be considered a top 5 point guard of all times when all is said and done.
Is AD going to be considered a top 5 PF or Center? Probably not, unless he randomly starts being healthy as he marches towards the downside of his career.
Congrats for AD leading the bubble league ship team in scoring. Basketball is about more than scoring. There is a reason why Lebron won finals MVP and it wasn’t particularly close.
It’s cool you hate Cp3 and love AD and Jrue. Not everyone needs to feel the exact same way you do about it. You are the one who came in here saying Jrue is greater than Monty and Cp3. Kind of a pointless thread as that seems to be solely your opinion. You are entitled to that, but you don’t have much to back it up.
I do think its a bit misguided that you and some others think Cp3 is an overall bad person because he’s simply hyper competitive when he is on the court. Being competitive and having an edge inside of the lines is not a bad thing. You can easily be an a hole in between the lines and still be an elite human off of the court. That’s CP3 in a nutshell. I’m sorry if he ignored you one night when you saw him out at a restaurant. I’m assuming something of that nature happened, considering how much you are personally attacking a player that openly loves New Orleans and gave a lot of time and his money to causes while he was here and even for a few years after he left the city.
CP3 has played with far better talent. Perhaps, but he turned New Orleans, Clippers, OKC and Phoenix all into winners and in some instances he did it in 1 year. AD couldn’t turn New Orleans into a winner for 6 years and we had a shitload of talent some of those years, including the final year when he quit on the franchise.
In the 2 years AD has been with Lebron, he has a negative plus minus without Lebron with him on the court and Lebron has a positive one without AD on the court. You can toss the entire Phoenix series out of the window. Cp3 was injured from game 1 on, Lebron was hobbled all series, and obviously AD went down as well. There can be no conclusions drawn from that series other than the one we all already knew. AD and his body is soft. Injuries are not a matter of it with him, it’s a matter of when. So to celebrate the fact that maybe just maybe the Lakers would’ve beaten Phoenix led by a hobbled, ancient Chris Paul if AD was fully healthy, seems like a weird thing to hang your hat on when comping the legacies of the 2 players.
Cp is going to be considered a top 5 point guard of all times when all is said and done.
Is AD going to be considered a top 5 PF or Center? Probably not, unless he randomly starts being healthy as he marches towards the downside of his career.
Congrats for AD leading the bubble league ship team in scoring. Basketball is about more than scoring. There is a reason why Lebron won finals MVP and it wasn’t particularly close.
It’s cool you hate Cp3 and love AD and Jrue. Not everyone needs to feel the exact same way you do about it. You are the one who came in here saying Jrue is greater than Monty and Cp3. Kind of a pointless thread as that seems to be solely your opinion. You are entitled to that, but you don’t have much to back it up.
I do think its a bit misguided that you and some others think Cp3 is an overall bad person because he’s simply hyper competitive when he is on the court. Being competitive and having an edge inside of the lines is not a bad thing. You can easily be an a hole in between the lines and still be an elite human off of the court. That’s CP3 in a nutshell. I’m sorry if he ignored you one night when you saw him out at a restaurant. I’m assuming something of that nature happened, considering how much you are personally attacking a player that openly loves New Orleans and gave a lot of time and his money to causes while he was here and even for a few years after he left the city.
This post was edited on 7/5/21 at 12:51 am
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