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re: Jose helped turn the tide of an NBA finals game

Posted on 6/11/26 at 9:04 am to
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 9:04 am to
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Nope, he's the reason they are contending and about to win a championship. Move out the way OG, Brunson, Hart, Kat, Bridges, M Robinson. Jose is the superstar. I'd love to see those guys pick up 5 fouls in 16 minutes, they could never get on his level.

I'm happy for the dude but damn y'all need to chill.
Gtfo out dude. Seriously.

You were the one leading the charge calling everyone an f'ing idiot that wanted to keep Jose. You were legit about to blow a gasket fighting people that simply wanted to keep a fan favorite. You beat the drum for what seemed like a month that Jose would never in his life play a meaningful playoff minute. Yet here he is, in the finals, putting in quality minutes in one of the best finals games in history.

Nobody, and I mean nobody, is saying he is more important than OG, Brunson, KAT. But he's doing his part, something you rioted that he would never do. Don't move the goalpost now acting like anybody was saying he was going to be the #1 option on a championship team.

Nobody wants to get lectured from the dumbass that said the Pels had four potential all stars on the roster before the season started. Get off your retarded arse high horse and do us all a favor and STFU.
Posted by SouthMSReb
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 9:05 am to
This just shows we've always had the correct surrounding pieces; CJ, NAW, Dyson, Hart, Jose...

We just don't have the star.

Zion experiment is done. It's over.
Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 9:19 am to
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You were the one leading the charge calling everyone an f'ing idiot that wanted to keep Jose. You were legit about to blow a gasket fighting people that simply wanted to keep a fan favorite.

Well yeah because in no world was he better than any assets we kept and a "fan favorite" should never be a reason to keep a back end rotational bench player on a failing franchise. That's laughable and sad.
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But he's doing his part, something you rioted that he would never do.

For us. And I'm 100% correct.
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Don't move the goalpost now acting like anybody was saying he was going to be the #1 option on a championship team.

This thread implies he was an important piece getting there and in the moment. He had 1 good game and still had 5 fouls in 16min in that game.

Yeah y'all are being ridiculous, you can be happy for the guy having success elsewhere and still be realistic that he's a worthless asset on OUR team.
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Pels had four potential all stars on the roster before the season started.

Poole was a hard miss and is arse. Z/ TM3/ DJ are still in that conversation.

I also admit when I'm wrong unlike 90% of the people here with ridiculous takes. I've been right more than wrong and still admit I'm wrong more than any people I've argued with. Let that sink in..
This post was edited on 6/11/26 at 9:21 am
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 9:27 am to
yeah he can shoot
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 9:34 am to
And they gave him up for nothing. I still can't believe people on here defended that bullshite.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
34657 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 9:35 am to
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Jose put a dude in the spin cycle and bopped a huge fricking 3 and had another 3.

8 4th quarter points. 8 more than zion will ever score in a finals


He had a couple of really nice assists also. The Knicks don't win that game without Jose helping with ball handling.

Dearon fox is an idiot. All he had to do was take that pass and dribble it to the corner. They were up 1 with 20 or so seconds left. He took it to the basket and fricked up.
This post was edited on 6/11/26 at 9:37 am
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 9:39 am to
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and a "fan favorite" should never be a reason to keep a back end rotational bench player on a failing franchise. That's laughable and sad.
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How are you not able to wrap your head around the fact that some people, are actually just fans of the team and players and root for them? Not everybody is a wannabe online GM and thinks their opinion has any bearing whatsoever on what the Pelicans do. People would make simple "Wish we wouldn't have traded Jose" and you'd go on your tangent bitching about how retarded someone was for not wanting him traded. Talk about laughable and sad.

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For us. And I'm 100% correct.


O bullshite revisionist history. You were saying he'd never have meaningful playoff minutes in general, not just here. But nice try at moviing the goalposts. Nobody was looking at our arse team and arguing about making the playoffs. That's ignoring the fact that he already had meaningful playoff minutes for us. You would even say dumb crap in other wordslike "You idiots love this guy because he made a few steals in the playoffs."

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This thread implies he was an important piece getting there and in the moment. He had 1 good game and still had 5 fouls in 16min in that game.

Yeah y'all are being ridiculous, you can be happy for the guy having success elsewhere and still be realistic that he's a worthless asset on OUR team.


Again, no one is saying he was more important than the people you mentioned. But he was important enough to be in in crunch time of a finals game with another point guard on the court. That's impressive, and more than you ever said he would do.

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Z/ TM3/ DJ are still in that conversation.


Ok Joe.
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
13149 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 9:44 am to
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I also admit when I'm wrong unlike 90% of the people here with ridiculous takes.


????

Jose just closed the game in the 4th quarter, scored all of his 8 points in the 4th, hit two huge shots and had two assists in clutch time. His rookie cards just exploded overnight cause he was huge in the greatest NBA Finals comeback ever. You’re wrong so I’d like to test this theory.

Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
34657 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 9:48 am to
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Well yeah because in no world was he better than any assets we kept and a "fan favorite" should never be a reason to keep a back end rotational bench player on a failing franchise. That's laughable and sad.
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How is he is a back end rotational bench player when he is playing closing mins in the finals?

You sound disingenuous.
Posted by Dantheman504
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Member since Jun 2013
6599 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 9:57 am to
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O bullshite revisionist history. You were saying he'd never have meaningful playoff minutes in general, not just here.

Not revisionist history, that was the main reason we were trading him. You must be confused, a bunch of people whined about how we should never trade him and I got attacked for telling people its 100% happening and why. He'd never have meaningful minutes for us. And the most he'd do is limited meaningful minutes on a team that doesn't really "need" him.
This post was edited on 6/11/26 at 10:05 am
Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 10:04 am to
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And they gave him up for nothing. I still can't believe people on here defended that bullshite.

Defend what? Wanting Jose to have a better opportunity where he's happy? Y'all love Jose so much that you'd rather him here with meaningful minutes being absolutely miserable.

The only reason this thread was able to be made is because they did what I wanted them to do not what you all wanted them to do.

If you had it y'alls way then Jose would be out of the playoffs on vacation probably talking shite about being stuck here.

"Jose should get an opportunity elsewhere he's useless here"

"you are a piece of shite"

"Look how happy Jose is elsewhere, I'm glad he's having a good time"
"Yeah it was the right move"

"You are a piece of shite"

Lol
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
5991 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 10:20 am to
We had the supporting cast.

We had/have the wrong center piece.
Posted by Pelicans15
Bossier
Member since Mar 2019
984 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 11:18 am to
cant we all just get along!

In ten years when Fears is hoisting his 3rd championship trophy* and Queen is finals mvp*, all this nonsense talk about jose or cj will be a tiny peck of the past.

lets just enjoy the future!

ETA: *with pelicans, not another team!
This post was edited on 6/11/26 at 5:48 pm
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
69049 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 2:25 pm to
Jose was huge in the 4th quarter…
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
69049 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 2:34 pm to
Also had 3 assists in the 4th. Created ball movement and took pressure off Brunson…
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
34657 posts
Posted on 6/12/26 at 9:18 am to
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You must be confused, a bunch of people whined about how we should never trade him and I got attacked for telling people its 100% happening and why. He'd never have meaningful minutes for us. And the most he'd do is limited meaningful minutes on a team that doesn't really "need" him.


But this is bullshite and isn't true.

How would he never have meaningful mins on a team that doesn't "need" him when he is playing meaningful mins in the finals on a team with plenty of elite talent?

You don't get rid of good players for nothing.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
15203 posts
Posted on 6/12/26 at 10:12 am to
You think he was going to re-sign with us? We have Murray and Fears.,

The return sucked but he was leaving. I hated Dumars trade for Queen but he made the right call here to get something.

Instead of getting 2nds, he shoukd have got us a more useful player for this year. But not sure who that could be.
This post was edited on 6/12/26 at 10:13 am
Posted by AD23
Lab
Member since Jun 2012
1540 posts
Posted on 6/12/26 at 10:12 am to
You guys are such fricking cucks man
Posted by Dantheman504
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Member since Jun 2013
6599 posts
Posted on 6/12/26 at 12:39 pm to
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You don't get rid of good players for nothing.

He was undrafted and cost us nothing. We gained 2 2nds. That's the exact opposite of nothing. If he stayed he walks for nothing and then we get nothing. Crazy how common sense works.

And he isn't a good player. He's a decent, undersized, and below average rotational player who works hard.

Career average of 6pts/ 1.9reb/ 2.8ast. That's not good or average. Its below average, subpar, and meaningless in the grand scheme.

Through his career, Alvarado has averaged around 4.8 points, 1.4 assists, and 1.3 rebounds in his postseason appearances. He's had more unplayable/ bad playoff appearances than great ones.

He's also 28y/o and not a 23 y/o with room to develop. He is what he is as a 6ppg player who could or could not get played out of the playoffs.

That who y'all are obsessing over. Love Jose and glad he can win a championship but y'all are fricking crazy.
This post was edited on 6/12/26 at 1:06 pm
Posted by Dantheman504
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Member since Jun 2013
6599 posts
Posted on 6/12/26 at 12:42 pm to
Y'all think trading him for picks is nothing when he would have actually walked for legit nothing in a year.

Y'all are upset that we traded him and are using his succes on another team as a defense when it was simultaneously the exact reason we wanted to trade him.

Nothing y'all are saying makes any sense. Complete hypocrisy and y'all are too in your emotions to ever realize it.
This post was edited on 6/12/26 at 12:45 pm
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