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re: JJ Redick Podcast On The Trade To Dallas
Posted on 3/31/21 at 10:50 pm to Bronc
Posted on 3/31/21 at 10:50 pm to Bronc
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Griffin explicitly said he was working to accommodate Redick from start to finish.
There is no ambiguity there.
Umm there's a large gap between "Working to accommodate" and "Guaranteeing accommodation"
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Posted on 3/31/21 at 10:54 pm to JohnnyKilroy
JJ fricking sucked all year and then acted like he was too good for this team. He’s half the reason why we sucked, frick that liberal bitch.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 10:56 pm to Bronc
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that his son just started kindergarten and he wanted to be there to help out because it was a weird situation with Covid and other stuff. That protocols also make it almost impossible to see him.
Why isn’t his son living with him where he works?
Posted on 3/31/21 at 11:21 pm to Bronc
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generational, hall of fame level talent like BI and Zion.
One is not like the other
Posted on 3/31/21 at 11:31 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Umm there's a large gap between "Working to accommodate" and "Guaranteeing accommodation"
Again, we’ve got his statement guys:
He’s not saying, well we told him we’d try.
He’s saying unambiguously that the actions they took were in pursuit of accommodating Redick’s wishes and that they “felt confident” they made a move that JJ would welcome.
Clearly this wasn’t the case so like I’ve said all day, at a minimum there was a communication failure here and Griffin acted before he could confirm both sides had a proper understanding of each other or reset expectations. And whatever specifically caused that communication failure, and we can speculate, it led to a sense of betrayal to what had been previously communicated to Redick.
If it’s an unfortunate one-off event, probably won’t be lasting consequences, if this is a recurring theme in Griff’s or Trajan’s managerial behavior, it could potentially be a lingering issue.
This post was edited on 3/31/21 at 11:32 pm
Posted on 3/31/21 at 11:48 pm to Bronc
You have typed no less than 25,000 words in this thread alone
Posted on 3/31/21 at 11:53 pm to Bronc
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He’s not saying, well we told him we’d try.
He's not saying he didn't tell him "We'd try" either
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He’s saying unambiguously that the actions they took were in pursuit of accommodating Redick’s wishes and that they “felt confident” they made a move that JJ would welcome.
None of this excludes the possibility that the "promise" to JJ was never a guarantee that it would happen.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 11:54 pm to barbapapa
The unfortunate side effect of not just walking away when people pile on you, often with a bunch of silliness.
It always takes a lot more time to correct a record than slander it.
It always takes a lot more time to correct a record than slander it.
This post was edited on 4/1/21 at 12:08 am
Posted on 4/1/21 at 12:02 am to JohnnyKilroy
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None of this excludes the possibility that the "promise" to JJ was never a guarantee that it would happen.
That’s immaterial though.
Griff believed(if you believe he’s being honest) he was in fact successfully accommodating JJ’s wishes and believed JJ would welcome this outcome based on a conversation they had at one point about wanting to contend in your twilight.
Redick and his agent, separately, believed from their meetings what was communicated toward them was NE or buy out.
Better communication would have solved this.
Again, if it’s a one off event, probably the only concerns might comes this summer, but if this is a regular problem Griff or Trajan have in their managerial style, it could be a recurring problem with longer term consequences.
Posted on 4/1/21 at 12:37 am to Bronc
Posted on 4/1/21 at 3:50 am to Bronc
I imagine we’ve all had conversations at some point where a person says you told me “X” and you’re sure you told them “Y.” People hear some of what they want to hear and think they said what they wish they’d said. It’s why it’s better to get these things in writing.
Griff should never added that cheesy last sentence about doing the Dallas trade to help out JJ and his family. Helping Redick out would have been buying him out so he could sign with a team of his choice close to his family. That’s helping him out. Not saying you have to do that but don’t act like you are doing him a favor by sending him Texas when you know he wanted to go close to home. Just say we made the best deal we could for the organization. Acting like you’re doing him a favor when you are actually screwing him over (in his mind) is what makes people bitter...
Griff should never added that cheesy last sentence about doing the Dallas trade to help out JJ and his family. Helping Redick out would have been buying him out so he could sign with a team of his choice close to his family. That’s helping him out. Not saying you have to do that but don’t act like you are doing him a favor by sending him Texas when you know he wanted to go close to home. Just say we made the best deal we could for the organization. Acting like you’re doing him a favor when you are actually screwing him over (in his mind) is what makes people bitter...
Posted on 4/1/21 at 4:54 am to Bronc
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Griff believed(if you believe he’s being honest) he was in fact successfully accommodating JJ’s wishes
You think that a public statement put out by the team is the full picture of what happened? Good grief! You are being incredibly dense about this whole situation.
It's more likely that Griff's real thoughts were: "What the hell did you do for our team anyway, that you have the right to demand a trade after one year of a two-year contract -- a contract that offered you more than any other team? Who the f do you think you are? You played like crap this season, and your poor play is a big part of the reason that the team has underachieved so far. In fact, your play has been so poor that no team in the northeast wants you -- I've tried really hard. So, here's what I'm going to do -- I'm going to send you home for 2.5 weeks with a fake injury so that you can spend some time with your family, and then I'm going to do what's best for the Pelicans."
I don't give a rat's arse about whether Griff really thought that he was accommodating Redick or not. The rest of the league is laughing at Redick, because they see how pathetic he is about this.
Posted on 4/1/21 at 5:19 am to Bronc
You must’ve had an off day yesterday, I’m impressed with your consistency on this thread
Posted on 4/1/21 at 7:03 am to Bronc
F@#k JJ. If his play was worth a shite this year, maybe he would not have been traded. Because his play was poor and his list of teams was small, his value was severely limited.
He could have paid the Pels to release him. I'm sure that some amount of money would have given him the optionality he wanted.
This is a business and his value dictated the results of the process.
He could have paid the Pels to release him. I'm sure that some amount of money would have given him the optionality he wanted.
This is a business and his value dictated the results of the process.
Posted on 4/1/21 at 8:10 am to SCP
Pretty much.
If the market wasn’t there for him where he wanted to be, his choices were to give back money to guarantee a buyout or take his chances on a trade.
Standing firm on how much he was willing to give back meant that the team was under little obligation to buy him out if a deal was available that would help the team more.
You’d think we sent him to Detroit or Houston instead of Dallas the way he is whining.
If the market wasn’t there for him where he wanted to be, his choices were to give back money to guarantee a buyout or take his chances on a trade.
Standing firm on how much he was willing to give back meant that the team was under little obligation to buy him out if a deal was available that would help the team more.
You’d think we sent him to Detroit or Houston instead of Dallas the way he is whining.
Posted on 4/1/21 at 8:20 am to ScoopAndScore
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Why isn’t his son living with him where he works?
According to JJ, they didn’t know when the nba season would start and they didn’t know if it was going to be another bubble, so they started their youngest in kindergarten in November. Shortly after, the nba announced a Christmas start and he had to be on his way to New Orleans. Plus we traded Jrue, so he requested his trade and figured he wouldn’t be there long.
Posted on 4/1/21 at 8:52 am to TotesMcGotes
Feels like an adult (Griff) having to deal with a child (JJ) who thinks they have rights they don't. And then the child goes and complains to his siblings/friends when he doesn't get his way.
Posted on 4/1/21 at 8:55 am to TotesMcGotes
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, so they started their youngest in kindergarten in November.
the horror. kindergarten school troubles.
Posted on 4/1/21 at 9:18 am to GOP_Tiger
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What the hell did you do for our team anyway, that you have the right to demand a trade after one year of a two-year contract -- a contract that offered you more than any other team? Who the f do you think you are?
This is where I was at the whole time. We didn't owe Reddick shite. He wasn't a long time Pel we needed to do right by and let him go finally play for a contender. You signed up to play for a young team that wasn't near your family. You weren't traded here against your will, you signed the contract because it was the best deal on the table.
You want to be home to help get your kid to school? Then fricking retire JJ.
Posted on 4/1/21 at 9:22 am to Bronc
I think it’s very hypocritical for players to always force their way off teams and onto one certain team to form “super teams” and that’s viewed as ok. But when an organization does what’s in their best interest and trades a player somewhere other than where that player demanded the team gets blasted in the media as not being honest. JJ can go frick himself as far as I’m concerned. If it’s a business on one end then it’s a business on both ends. The players have way too much control nowadays and they are making the NBA worse because of it. They want to form 3-4 super teams and let all the rest just be shite out of luck.
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