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re: JJ Comments on ESPN about BI, Zion, and potential trade chatter
Posted on 6/14/23 at 12:33 pm to Pels_Yaz
Posted on 6/14/23 at 12:33 pm to Pels_Yaz
One makes you a millionaire, the other puts a damper on your investment portfolio. I’ve considered both options, the potential pros of keeping him outweigh the potential cons of trading him
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Posted on 6/14/23 at 12:34 pm to SCLSUMuddogs
quote:Zion is Tesla 3 weeks away from running out of cash and going bankrupt. I like it.
That rationale is akin to saying “man Tesla just keeps getting worse, better get out now before it gets lower.” So you sell in 2019 at $13/share
We about to go to the moon!!
Posted on 6/14/23 at 12:35 pm to SCLSUMuddogs
Yeah except hes not a small investment in your portfolio. Zion is basically your whole portfolio. If he completely tanks and you get nothing in return- your basically asking to get fired as a GM.
Posted on 6/14/23 at 12:36 pm to SCLSUMuddogs
quote:I'll just keep repeating it...I honestly don't think those that want to trade him really acknowledge how bad this trade can be.
One makes you a millionaire, the other puts a damper on your investment portfolio. I’ve considered both options, the potential pros of keeping him outweigh the potential cons of trading him
Meaning, some want to trade him because they think he'll never be healthy. The team trading for him thinks he can be healthy. They may be correct, and we may be wrong. And then would just crush a franchise like the Pels.
That wouldn't be CP3 or AD wanting out. We'd be getting rid of a dude at 22 who goes on to potentially be a top 5 NBA player. It would be one of the worst trades imagineable for a small market team like the Pels.
Posted on 6/14/23 at 12:37 pm to shel311
I mean I really hope Zion isn’t Theranos lol
Posted on 6/14/23 at 12:39 pm to Pels_Yaz
He’s 16% of the team cap, right around the suggested amount you should invest from your annual salary. This is a business decision, like any others. Trading Zion at this point is cutting off our nose in an effort to save our face
Posted on 6/14/23 at 12:41 pm to shel311
Sure theres a risk of that. But four years of nonsense injuries, weight issues and conditioning problems. I guess my question is when is it time to trade him if his career continues to follow this path? Like if he continues with these injuries are you ok getting peanuts in return or nothing in later years?
Posted on 6/14/23 at 12:42 pm to SCLSUMuddogs
I mean your getting Scoot back in return. So you may get a new nose lol
Posted on 6/14/23 at 12:44 pm to TigerinATL
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We know he can play himself into shape. What would make me feel a lot better about Zion is him adding tools and habits that will help him stay in shape when he can't play. Like getting into shape by swimming a few hours a day. Or using the personal chef for all of his meals and not hitting up Wendy's anymore. That's probably not anything that would ever get reported to us, but if I'm the team, that's the kind of thing I'd be looking for and pushing for.
Also if he can learn how to shoot so he’s not exhausting himself attacking the rim, that would be great.
Posted on 6/14/23 at 12:50 pm to Pels_Yaz
Sure, we could get lucky and Scoot could end up being a generational talent. I don't see how that outcome is any more likely than Zion playing a full season. Scoot is a complete and total unknown. The only good sample size we have for him is from high school. Zion is a complete unknown because he could get hurt again. However we only know for certain that one of them can dominate against NBA bodies.
Scoot dealt with Rib and knee injuries last year too btw, he's not immune to getting hurt either
Scoot dealt with Rib and knee injuries last year too btw, he's not immune to getting hurt either
This post was edited on 6/14/23 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 6/14/23 at 12:53 pm to Fun Bunch
If future cap implications are ignored I get not wanted to trade either and especially BI. Fact is, though, that in two years the team will end up losing one of their young core players by keeping both and it is unlikely to keep hitting on draft picks like they have moving forward.
JJ’s comments and approach is win at all costs now perspective. That is what got the Saints in trouble for example. I’m the end, you have to make a decision on what is best both for now and the future.
JJ’s comments and approach is win at all costs now perspective. That is what got the Saints in trouble for example. I’m the end, you have to make a decision on what is best both for now and the future.
Posted on 6/14/23 at 12:54 pm to Pels_Yaz
quote:He may be completely correct, but Stein has not shown to have connections to Pels in the past. If MM is to be believed at all, he said his "high placed" source told him the discussions have not even gotten to the point of discussing any players, just expression of an interest to potentially trade up.
I mean Stein is literally saying pelicans considering trading Zion. Is that not news when most have said pelicans wouldnt even consider it. Stein is pretty legit too. I don’t understand thus blatant denial that we may consider trading him. Why does that seem so far fetched?
Posted on 6/14/23 at 12:55 pm to Macintosh
quote:Sure, but that was not the discussion referred to above.
I think they’d take BI/Z + pick(s) over anything OKC or Utah have. If we really want Scoot. We should beat anyone else’s offer.
Posted on 6/14/23 at 12:55 pm to NOSHAU
Windy, who I can't believe I am saying this, I trust a lot more than Stein with Pels info, says we have not even made an actual offer yet
Posted on 6/14/23 at 12:56 pm to Geauxgurt
quote:We could move CJ and then could afford Zion, as well as Trey/Herb/BI new deals.
Fact is, though, that in two years the team will end up losing one of their young core players by keeping both
This post was edited on 6/14/23 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 6/14/23 at 12:56 pm to NOSHAU
quote:Bruh, if you're questioning who you trust more with a report out of Stein and that dude...you're doing it wrong.
He may be completely correct, but Stein has not shown to have connections to Pels in the past. If MM is to be believed at all, he said his "high placed" source told him the discussions have not even gotten to the point of discussing any players, just expression of an interest to potentially trade up.
Posted on 6/14/23 at 12:57 pm to NOSHAU
I thought it was well established that MM's source left the team years ago. Why the frick we still listening to what MM has to say?
Posted on 6/14/23 at 12:58 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:Why?
Windy, who I can't believe I am saying this, I trust a lot more than Stein with Pels info,
Other than the obvious Shams/Woj breaking every single story, Windy is legit arguably the most connected and best at his job in the NBA reporter world.
Posted on 6/14/23 at 12:58 pm to SCLSUMuddogs
Hes unknown because hes a prospect but hes not a complete unknown. Hes played 2 years in the gleague( not just high school) and majority of scouts will tell you besides Wemby he is by far the best prospect in the draft. In fact in other drafts, he likely would be number one. To be fair your characterizing Scoot like hes an unknown mid first riund guy. He is wildly being touted by scouts as a franchise guy and that needs to be included when your evaluating whether to trade Zion.
Posted on 6/14/23 at 12:59 pm to saints5021
quote:It's hilarious that all of a sudden people keep posting his sourced comments here out of nowhere.
I thought it was well established that MM's source left the team years ago. Why the frick we still listening to what MM has to say?
Not sure about what you said, but it does make sense in the idea that I haven't seen anyone posting his sourced "reports" for years around here but all of a sudden, he's dropping sourced comments all day yesterday.
Putting any stock into that is just not a good idea. Putting more stock into that than something from Stein is just a bad idea.
This post was edited on 6/14/23 at 1:00 pm
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