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Posted on 8/21/20 at 11:39 pm to whatiknowsofar
quote:Why? Would you be OK if say, Booker or Murray or Beal were doing it?
I understand he shot 37.5% from 3, I also understand he has no business taking 6.3 per game,
Posted on 8/21/20 at 11:40 pm to NOSHAU
quote:yes because they’ve been consistent perimeter shooters for longer than 3 months. At the same time though that’s the only offensive scoring Lonzo is capable of currently. He has zero confidence around the rim and his midrange is shaky as well
Would you be OK if say, Booker or Murray or Beal were doing it?
This post was edited on 8/21/20 at 11:42 pm
Posted on 8/22/20 at 12:03 am to DJ3K
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package him, jrue and 13 to detroit for their pick (wiseman) and McRae and call it a deal ?
I refuse to believe you're really a Pels fan
This post was edited on 8/22/20 at 12:04 am
Posted on 8/22/20 at 7:52 am to Fun Bunch
Unfortunately his bubble performance tanked his stock.
Posted on 8/22/20 at 10:20 am to Billy Mays
Or more importantly, made it plain as day to our camp he's not lead guard material
This post was edited on 8/22/20 at 10:21 am
Posted on 8/22/20 at 10:28 am to whatiknowsofar
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I understand he shot 37.5% from 3, I also understand he has no business taking 6.3 per game, and he took waaaaay too many Steph 3s this year too.
Part of that was our dumbass coach prodding him to shoot that many threes rather than develop an actual half court game/point guard game. I’m curious what a good coach could cultivate in him, but if we traded him I wouldn’t lose sleep because I do think he has a somewhat low ceiling.
This post was edited on 8/22/20 at 10:30 am
Posted on 8/22/20 at 10:36 am to Macintosh504
quote:Ball shot better than all of them for the entire season.
yes because they’ve been consistent perimeter shooters for longer than 3 months. At the same time though that’s the only offensive scoring Lonzo is capable of currently. He has zero confidence around the rim and his midrange is shaky as well
Posted on 8/22/20 at 10:39 am to Fun Bunch
Wait. How could we trade the most important player on the team???
Hahahahahahah, God that was the worst thread ever. As if Zion/BI/Jrue dont exist.
Hahahahahahah, God that was the worst thread ever. As if Zion/BI/Jrue dont exist.
Posted on 8/22/20 at 11:10 am to NOSHAU
Here comes the Ball fan boys!!!!
Ball also had a terrible season free throw shooting wise and fg wise. 3ball was better though. And still pretty much the same Lonzo.
Ball also had a terrible season free throw shooting wise and fg wise. 3ball was better though. And still pretty much the same Lonzo.
Posted on 8/22/20 at 11:40 am to NOSHAU
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Ball shot better than all of them for the entire season.
Posted on 8/22/20 at 11:59 am to TigerinATL
Hart has 10x’s more valuable that Lonzo to this team Imo.
I’d be shopping Lonzo to Charlotte, Detroit, Atlanta, Minny, Chicago, Phoenix, and time the Knicks.
See if I can get their first rounder this year.
I’d be shopping Lonzo to Charlotte, Detroit, Atlanta, Minny, Chicago, Phoenix, and time the Knicks.
See if I can get their first rounder this year.
Posted on 8/22/20 at 12:23 pm to Macintosh504
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He has zero confidence around the rim and his midrange is shaky as well
What if I told you Lonzo was better than Jrue at the rim the first three years into their careers?
Let's pretend you have a 22 year old player, his name isnt Lonzo Ball, and for this first three seasons in the NBA, he improved his 3P%, FT%, % at the Rim, and % on jumpers year over year. If that guy was NAW and he improved year over year the first three years, people would be going bananas.
Unrealistic expectations certainly cloud tangible growth
Posted on 8/22/20 at 12:47 pm to GynoSandberg
Difference is I saw the growth in Naws inside scoring as the year went on. Particularly in the bubble after his wrist surgery. I’m okay with inefficiencies at first if there’s some progression involved. Zo is on year 3 and still loooks scared and lacking around the rim. Not willing to pay him 15+ mil a year after next year
Posted on 8/22/20 at 12:58 pm to Macintosh504
I’m not comparing NAW. Point is you’d be ecstatic with year over year growth from him. But Ball is never recognized for all the improvements, people still want more. Ya he played like dog arse in the bubble, that’s all anyone will remember
He’s 60% at the rim his last two seasons on nearly 300 attempts. Above league average for his position Increased efficiency every year. Only 22. Jrue was 56% at the rim his first three years. Players improve. Ball has done so every year
I’m not saying don’t sell him. Just recognize the game
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Zo is on year 3 and still loooks scared and lacking around the rim.
He’s 60% at the rim his last two seasons on nearly 300 attempts. Above league average for his position Increased efficiency every year. Only 22. Jrue was 56% at the rim his first three years. Players improve. Ball has done so every year
I’m not saying don’t sell him. Just recognize the game
This post was edited on 8/22/20 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 8/22/20 at 1:00 pm to GynoSandberg
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But Ball is never recognized for all the improvements, people still want more.
excuse us for thinking our point guard should be able to make free throws at a level higher than say, Shaq. He doesn't get a pat on the back because he "improved" his free throw percentage to a whopping 56%.
This post was edited on 8/22/20 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 8/22/20 at 1:01 pm to GynoSandberg
quote:that’s fair
not saying don’t sell him. Just recognize the game
Posted on 8/22/20 at 1:07 pm to P bean
quote:Is that your argument when someone states a fact? Someone said his big problem was taking too many threes. The fact is that he was good at it and better than players many would have no problem taking the same amount of threes. Your comment shows that you are biased already.
Here comes the Ball fan boys!!!!
Posted on 8/22/20 at 2:09 pm to GynoSandberg
You can improve the percentage at the rim and at the FT line all you want, but it will make little to no difference if he isn’t willing to attack the rim and get to the FT line.
Another area of growth is taking better shots which Lonzo struggles to do.
I’m not saying Lonzo can’t turn the corner, but there won’t be significant improvement until his next contract in 2025
Another area of growth is taking better shots which Lonzo struggles to do.
I’m not saying Lonzo can’t turn the corner, but there won’t be significant improvement until his next contract in 2025
This post was edited on 8/22/20 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 8/22/20 at 2:40 pm to REG861
quote:
excuse us for thinking our point guard should be able to make free throws at a level higher than say, Shaq. He doesn't get a pat on the back because he "improved" his free throw percentage to a whopping 56%.
Do you think there is anyone on this planet who thinks his FT shooting is acceptable?
We willingly traded for a 44% free throw shooter. So yea, we can acknowledge any improvement there. He jumped to 56% on the season and was 61% in the 37 G after 1/1. We saw Ingram jump from 67% to 85% with us.
You cannot just transform every part of your game overnight and become Jason Kidd. Pretend to know about the developmental curve of 95% of NBA players
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