re: Is anyone else tempted to try a "Big 4" for half a season?

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Bring back Zeller + another vet min + Missi as your centers. Yeah we're repeating failed history with Stiemsma/Ajinca, but you'd have at least 2 of Zion/CJ/BI/Murray on the court all 48 minutes.

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But to this original point, if Gayle is willing to pay some tax, then yeah, let's try to win the whole thing this season.

We can use some combo of picks, swaps, Hawk, and/or a JV sign-and-trade to get Kessler or Duren to start and Day'Ron Sharpe as a backup, and we'd still be under the apron.

At that point, I think we're best in the West. I'd love it, and it would be crazy fun. But like Griff said in the press conference, he can't afford to be wrong. If we go into the tax and it flops, then he gets fired and we sell off a bunch of assets. So, we'd have to get a favorable deal for BI, and Griff would have to be absolutely convinced that it would work.

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I mean, did the Warriors really have a great center. They closed most games without one on the floor

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1. I just said quality starter, not a huge bar and we can’t reach it.
2. Which warriors? Because I could make arguments for Bogut, Draymond and KD being quality starting centers for all the championship years I’m pretty sure

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2 of Zion/CJ/BI/Murray

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A name more important than both of those is Trey Murphy. BI needs to go because he’ll get you the bigger return but no matter what, TM3 has to get in the starting lineup.

Kessler came out and said that he doesnt like the direction of what Utah is doing. So I don’t think it will cost much to grab him. Plus them drafting Filipkowski helps too. However, you might be competing with OKC, PHX and LAL for his services.

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With TPE, you can take a player without sending one out?

So TPE + picks for one of these players?

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Yes.

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He may even be getable without losing a ton since he had a bit of a down sophomore year and Utah seems to be heading another direction.

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I've said it in other threads, but it really seems personal, somehow. It's almost like there was a locker-room fight, or someone screwed someone else's girlfriend, or something. He seems eager to get out, and they seem anxious to get rid of him.

BI and Murray can't coexist without neutering each other's game. And that also takes the ball out of Zion's hands if you have to make BI happy.

BI doesn't like playing off ball the majority of the time. He wants the ball as much as possible. BI is looking to get paid. He's not going to sit there and take a backseat for anyone especially in a contract year.

Go get Kessler or Duren with some of the stockpile of assets. Hawk or Jose may be a casualty to getting that deal done. Then with your starting lineup in tact. You upgrade your bench with trading B.I. for 2 players and assets. Or CJ, but that wouldn't net you the upgrade on the bench needed.

Pass on Ayton and his hefty contract along with apparent issues that cause a team to lose favor in him.

Even the Allen trade is not necessarily needed bc we don't need Allen to score but he has said he wants more inclusion in the offense and to be seen as a two-way player. Tbh, I would take a hard look at Robert Williams medicals and if they pass the muster, decide to roll the dice in getting him for a steal. He shouldn't require that much to attain him.

With Williams and Messi in the fold, sign another big man to play center in free agency in the bargain bin section or figure out how to specifically target a particular skill set in a big man, maybe a stretch 5, who might not be a defensive stalwart but gives another option on any given night.

We know that the Center position HAS to be the cheapest collective out of any other positions. We just have to maximize the dollars we do use.

I don't think it's a good point, because I don't think it's true. When asked at the season-end presser, BI said it would be "helpful" for the team to get a traditional PG, like we had before with Lonzo and then Bledsoe.