re: Ingram just posted on his instagram stories and yep, it ain't good

Brandon Ingram is a fricking idiot

No one thinks you’re a max level player. No one wants to send scraps to trade for you. You have no market whatsoever. There’s a reason for that

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??, you really are so clueless ma boi. The only reason why Zion didn’t get moved last offseason is because Griffin didn’t like the value he was getting back. It was very close to happening though. Meanwhile, Ingram was an untouchable for us last offseason

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I’ll take things that aren’t true for $1000 please. Until Zion demands a trade I highly doubt that we’re considering trading him. Also how the hell do know that Griff wanted to trade Zion but didn’t like the offers he got? Why do message board posters claim to know anything like that? Pretty hilarious to read thanks for the laugh.

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??, you really are so clueless ma boi. The only reason why Zion didn’t get moved last offseason is because Griffin didn’t like the value he was getting back

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You said he had "little to no value" but the discussion was about Scoot, who most at that time thought was a can't miss prospect.


Except for me, but that's a different discussion lol.

Not a drug user. I do admittedly troll at times. It’s tough to be super serious about this team all the time. I entered this thread with good intentions tbh (original post below). But the NOSHAU dude pretty much disagrees with everything I say in every thread. All I did was respond back to him a few times in this thread, and now people are suggesting I am experimenting with drugs lol. Me and NOSHAU just randomly have a toxic back and forth. I don’t remember where it originated, but if I as much as breathe these days, he cries.

I am still extremely baffled that this entire board forgot that Zion was heavily on the trade block last offseason (mostly for Scoot and Shaedon Sharpe). Also, there were multiple teams, most notably Charlotte, that were interested in trading for Ingram instead of Zion, but we were not interested in doing so.

Original post that made NOSHAU cry:

I can’t remember the source exactly, but it was reported that we offered something to the extent of BI for Murray and Capela and Atlanta just had no interest whatsoever in Ingram. So we went the other route: Dyson, salary and picks for Murray. The offseason was still young at that time and the front office still had hope that one of the other 30 teams would bite on Ingram, even though Atlanta ultimately had no interest.

Unfortunately the time to trade him was last season. It’s possible, we could’ve gotten the 2nd or 3rd pick out of either Portland or Charlotte, plus another asset or 2 for him. But we spent the majority of last offseason trying to move Zion instead of Ingram. Which is understandable given what Z had shown maturity wise to that point in 4 seasons

Not really sure why that riled people up tbh. It was all we talked about for 6 weeks last offseason.

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Not a drug user. I do admittedly troll at times. It’s tough to be super serious about this team all the time. I entered this thread with good intentions tbh (original post below). But the NOSHAU dude pretty much disagrees with everything I say in every thread. All I did was respond back to him a few times in this thread, and now people are suggesting I am experimenting with drugs lol. Me and NOSHAU just randomly have a toxic back and forth. I don’t remember where it originated, but if I as much as breathe these days, he cries.

I am still extremely baffled that this entire board forgot that Zion was heavily on the trade block last offseason (mostly for Scoot and Shaedon Sharpe). Also, there were multiple teams, most notably Charlotte, that were interested in trading for Ingram instead of Zion, but we were not interested in doing so.

Original post that made NOSHAU cry:

I can’t remember the source exactly, but it was reported that we offered something to the extent of BI for Murray and Capela and Atlanta just had no interest whatsoever in Ingram. So we went the other route: Dyson, salary and picks for Murray. The offseason was still young at that time and the front office still had hope that one of the other 30 teams would bite on Ingram, even though Atlanta ultimately had no interest.

Unfortunately the time to trade him was last season. It’s possible, we could’ve gotten the 2nd or 3rd pick out of either Portland or Charlotte, plus another asset or 2 for him. But we spent the majority of last offseason trying to move Zion instead of Ingram. Which is understandable given what Z had shown maturity wise to that point in 4 seasons

Not really sure why that riled people up tbh. It was all we talked about for 6 weeks last offseason.

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You cannot simply post false information and not expect to be challenged. There has been NO ONE who remembers this fake crap you are posting. Everyone is telling you they do not recall anything about Zion being on the block or Griffin not being able to get any value for him. Yet, you continue to post that and cry when others disagree with you. Just because posters may have wanted him traded last year does not mean he was on the block. Had Griffin wanted to trade him for Scoot (as you say he was heavily on the block for) he would have been gone. Griffin refused to include him in a deal. Not sure where you are getting your information from.

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Not a drug user. I do admittedly troll at times

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You’re not trolling, you legit thought we were considering trading Zion and you’re making attempt to backtrack.

So I guess moving forward we shouldn’t take any of your post seriously?

I think you are getting stuck on the little to no value line. That was more of a general statement about his value across the league last summer. Posters like NoSHAU are acting like Zion wasn’t even on the trade block at all last summer. But we did have a chance with Portland due to their Dame situation. But to them, it was only for Scoot and Simons. Griff wanted Sharpe. Portland said No. So Griff didn’t pull the trigger. Charlotte wanted BI instead of Zion, and we weren’t interested in that. Griff then did his usual offseason spin job and claimed Zion was never on the block. Do people forget how pissy Zion was for about 3 months to start the season? Is it fair to think he might have at least partly been pissed due to the trade attempts? He also consistently took shots about his role within the new offense. He was generally was pretty obviously unhappy w the organization to start the season.

Even if people disagree about that, I think it’s very strange that people are pretending like we didn’t try to move him last offseason and that Ingram was untouchable. Those are the 2 main points I was making. Griff consistently does this. He doesn’t time trades well. We saw it with the Lonzo situation. We have seen him try to trade Zion at his lowest point vs his higher points. And now we are seeing it with Ingram as well. Ingram would’ve had a lot of value prior to this offseason. Griff blew it per usual and now we are in a weird situation where we might lose the guy Griff labeled as his franchise guy for basically 5 years, for next to nothing. It’s a frustrating situation.

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I’ve been saying for months now, this will be the Zo situation all over again. We will get pennies on the dollar.

I’m just really curious if the Hawks didn’t want Ingram in the Murray trade and we could have kept DD and our firsts but Griff thought he could get a better haul back on the open market. And now it’s blown up in his face. No reason for the Hawks not to want to pair him with Trae. They get a secondary playmaker that doesn’t play the same position.

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It's already been reported the hawks didn't want him back in the Murray trade.

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That’s not true. Zion had little to no value last offseason. It’s pretty well known that we were actively trying to move Zion, while actively telling teams that we weren’t interested in moving Ingram. No sense in denying it.

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You can't be serious.