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re: Ingram contract offer rumor 4/160-180

Posted on 7/6/24 at 4:21 pm to
Posted by Tigerfan14
Member since Jun 2014
1689 posts
Posted on 7/6/24 at 4:21 pm to
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Well that’s just not true.


He said they should be, which is true.

It isn’t true, which is the issue with a bunch of teams. You have an average one dimensional player and they get a max deal because the team is scared to lose them for nothing.
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
10115 posts
Posted on 7/6/24 at 4:23 pm to
4/$160 would be a very tradeable contract. Takes away the risk of him being a rental and at $40M AAV, will look cheap with ‘25-‘26 being at $36M.

4/$180 is probably too big a risk of being stuck with Ingram for me.
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
10115 posts
Posted on 7/6/24 at 4:28 pm to
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If you saw the same rumor I saw, that’s what the Pels want, not what BI is willing to take. He has no reason to commit to a less than max deal.


I think BI’s camp is playing with fire. If he does not extend and Pels don’t get an offer they like, Ingram could end up playing less than Trey and/or coming off the bench. His stats will be down and if he picks up a serious injury that max is toast.
Posted by duyp
Member since May 2011
3320 posts
Posted on 7/6/24 at 4:29 pm to
I take him at 4/160 with how the cap is rising.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 7/6/24 at 4:31 pm to
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Pels don’t get an offer they like, Ingram could end up playing less than Trey and/or coming off the bench. His stats will be down and if he picks up a serious injury that max is toast.


It also means his trade value is toast as well.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17322 posts
Posted on 7/6/24 at 4:31 pm to
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think BI’s camp is playing with fire. If he does not extend and Pels don’t get an offer they like, Ingram could end up playing less than Trey and/or coming off the bench. His stats will be down and if he picks up a serious injury that max is toast.

I didn’t even think of that possibility of telling him take the extension or come off the bench.

That would be cold blooded, but frick it
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
10115 posts
Posted on 7/6/24 at 4:34 pm to
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It also means his trade value is toast as well


He’d be expiring in that scenario because his trade value is currently toast, so that’s fine.
Posted by Delusional
Member since Dec 2018
6121 posts
Posted on 7/6/24 at 4:36 pm to
Contract based on how many 3s and layups he makes.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 7/6/24 at 4:36 pm to
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He’d be expiring in that scenario because his trade value is currently toast, so that’s fine.


Is it? One of our best assets will walk for nothing. I mean then just take the lesser offers now.
Posted by matty3387
Metairie
Member since May 2018
1700 posts
Posted on 7/6/24 at 4:45 pm to
Why would you move CJ? IMO he has been more valuable to this team than ingram
Posted by 3PieceSpicy
Metairie
Member since Jan 2021
7732 posts
Posted on 7/6/24 at 4:49 pm to
Because he is terrible in playoff basketball games. Also, small, aging guard. And if we are playing small ball w no center, idk if he can be a heavy part of that rotation.
Posted by TwoDatBait
Northshore, LA
Member since Jul 2011
6393 posts
Posted on 7/6/24 at 4:54 pm to
Will he stop smoking weed at halftime?
Posted by LSUBALLER
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2013
20496 posts
Posted on 7/6/24 at 4:59 pm to
So who paid for letting him play. Willie? This organization is poorly ran then, do you agree. We were hot as hell going into playoffs without BI on floor.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13475 posts
Posted on 7/6/24 at 5:02 pm to
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Dont want ingram under any circumstance. Trade for a 2nd for all i care
Just plain stupid. Stop being emotional and use reason.
Posted by arronrx
Pass Christian
Member since Jun 2008
106 posts
Posted on 7/6/24 at 5:03 pm to
If they don’t trade him this weekend then look for them to sign him to an extension soon. I believe once he signs an extension he can’t be traded for 6 months which takes you to the trade deadline. Trading him then without an extension will net you nothing of value. The longer this lingers the less value they will get out of him
Posted by ThePistol
Lafayette, LA
Member since Mar 2007
1805 posts
Posted on 7/6/24 at 5:15 pm to
I absolutely do not want to extend Ingram. I understand why, but I HATE it for this team. Going into the season with Ingram on the roster and no starting center is a failure by Griff and his team.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465444 posts
Posted on 7/6/24 at 5:23 pm to
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A player should be an all-NBA/all-star every season to be making $45-$50 million.

Naw. The math doesn't work.

With how much salary the league has to spend, and max salaries limiting actual market values, you're not only going to be paying 5-10 guys that salary (given there are only 15 all-NBA slots and your requirement is "every" year)
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465444 posts
Posted on 7/6/24 at 5:24 pm to
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I didn’t even think of that possibility of telling him take the extension or come off the bench.

That would be cold blooded, but frick it

Unless the players in the league hate him, that would paint us with a Scarlet letter for sure. Players/agents don't play like that.

*ETA: I will agree he is taking a risk, b/c any injury or failure to adapt further may set him off as a UFA in an NBA that is changing how they view max deals. He may not get an offer of 4/160 next year.
This post was edited on 7/6/24 at 5:25 pm
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13475 posts
Posted on 7/6/24 at 5:24 pm to
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I absolutely do not want to extend Ingram. I understand why, but I HATE it for this team. Going into the season with Ingram on the roster and no starting center is a failure by Griff and his team.
Obviously they are going to get a center. Even if is a lower level center, you cannot give up an asset like BI for nothing. You sign him and work to trade him later.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 7/6/24 at 5:29 pm to
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Even if is a lower level center,


But is it a starting level center and upgrade over JV? The whole point of not resigning JV is to technically get a better fit or upgrade. I don’t know if they’re going to be able to do that now.
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