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re: I'm completely dumbfounded how even ONE person could NOT like this deal

Posted on 12/8/11 at 7:13 pm to
Posted by tehchampion140
Member since Sep 2010
18886 posts
Posted on 12/8/11 at 7:13 pm to
quote:

Peja's expiring and 2011 1st(Bayless) for Jack and Andersen

Brackins and Songaila's expiring for Willie Green and Jason Smith

I had no idea those were bad trades. What the frick constitutes a good trade for you, then? CP3 and Okafor for LeBron and Wade?
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
22192 posts
Posted on 12/8/11 at 7:13 pm to
quote:

LarryCoon Larry Coon
One more note: NO can't send out just CP3 ($16.4M) and get back Odom, Scola, Dragic & Martin ($31.1M). They have to send more out.
Coon's the best cap guy out there.

So something else has to be invloved that we havent heard....
Posted by tehchampion140
Member since Sep 2010
18886 posts
Posted on 12/8/11 at 7:14 pm to
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So something else has to be invloved that we havent heard....


Odom/Ariza for Iggy.
Posted by mhasen1
Texas
Member since Feb 2008
1864 posts
Posted on 12/8/11 at 7:14 pm to
quote:

Coon's the best cap guy out there.

So something else has to be invloved that we havent heard....


Even with Okafor leaving, we take on more money
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
67354 posts
Posted on 12/8/11 at 7:14 pm to
quote:

mhasen1


So I'm curious, Herr G.M. What deal would you have done?
Posted by tehchampion140
Member since Sep 2010
18886 posts
Posted on 12/8/11 at 7:15 pm to
Posted by emmanuellewis
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2009
3266 posts
Posted on 12/8/11 at 7:15 pm to
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I did, so go frick yourself. We are not the Lakers. We will not be a top seed every year. We took the Lakers to 6 games, for Christ's sake. If you want perennial powerhouses then stop being a Hornets fan douche.


So the goal is to shoot for getting your arse kicked in the playoffs once every few years. That is the ceiling to shoot for? Of course. the Hornets aren't going to be a perennial powerhouse every year, but they should be building toward something. This team is old and overpaid.

Also, Chris Paul is the reason they took the Lakers to 6 games. He played out of his mind in the only 2 wins for NOLA.
Posted by mhasen1
Texas
Member since Feb 2008
1864 posts
Posted on 12/8/11 at 7:16 pm to
quote:

quote:


Peja's expiring and 2011 1st(Bayless) for Jack and Andersen
Brackins and Songaila's expiring for Willie Green and Jason Smith

I had no idea those were bad trades. What the frick constitutes a good trade for you,


What the frick constitutes a bad trade?
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
22192 posts
Posted on 12/8/11 at 7:17 pm to
We can take on more money because we're under that cap. Just not ALL this money apparently
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
29855 posts
Posted on 12/8/11 at 7:17 pm to
I havent read what he has said about this deal, but Mhansen usually knows what he is talking about regarding the Hornets.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288200 posts
Posted on 12/8/11 at 7:17 pm to
quote:

Peja's expiring and 2011 1st(Bayless) for Jack and Andersen

Brackins and Songaila's expiring for Willie Green and Jason Smith

This deal



small secondary deals like this have you worried?

lol ok.


as if you know they had better offers on the table.
Posted by tehchampion140
Member since Sep 2010
18886 posts
Posted on 12/8/11 at 7:18 pm to
Certainly not those. Jack was a much better contributor for us than Bayless last year and Andersen was irrelevant because he makes nothing. Green and Smith played well too and Brackins was a shitty rookie.
Posted by tehchampion140
Member since Sep 2010
18886 posts
Posted on 12/8/11 at 7:20 pm to
quote:

So the goal is to shoot for getting your arse kicked in the playoffs once every few years. That is the ceiling to shoot for? Of course. the Hornets aren't going to be a perennial powerhouse every year, but they should be building toward something. This team is old and overpaid.


1. You do not know how good this roster will be together yet.

2. We are showing improvement and just got rid of CP3 who almost had us in a position to get nothing because he was all in for New York.

Please tell me, what would you have done as the GM? I'm listening.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 12/8/11 at 7:20 pm to
quote:

we can trade Odom to anyone. he will have little power


We could trade CP3 to anyone, also. How did that turn out?
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
67354 posts
Posted on 12/8/11 at 7:21 pm to
I've got to run a couple of errands for a half hour or so. You guys get this shite straightened out while I'm gone, okay?
Posted by tehchampion140
Member since Sep 2010
18886 posts
Posted on 12/8/11 at 7:22 pm to
quote:

We could trade CP3 to anyone, also. How did that turn out?


No we couldn't have. We could've tried, but we wouldn't get shite because no one would give us anyone worthwhile to rent CP3 for a year. This is by far the best trade we've gotten in terms of talent with CP3 not agreeing to any extensions.
Posted by MrPappagiorgio
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2009
41124 posts
Posted on 12/8/11 at 7:22 pm to
at you
Posted by mhasen1
Texas
Member since Feb 2008
1864 posts
Posted on 12/8/11 at 7:23 pm to
quote:

So I'm curious, Herr G.M. What deal would you have done?


Probably none.

Or I would have at least waited for the Lakers or Knicks to offer Bynum or Amare.

Either guy is much easier to flip.

But doing nothing looks like it was the best option after the other deals fell apart. Somebody would have come forward with a deal to rent Paul just to make a run this year.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288200 posts
Posted on 12/8/11 at 7:23 pm to
quote:

We could trade CP3 to anyone, also. How did that turn out?



Not even close to being the same
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
67354 posts
Posted on 12/8/11 at 7:24 pm to
quote:

Or I would have at least waited for the Lakers or Knicks to offer Bynum or Amare.


quote:

Somebody would have come forward with a deal to rent Paul just to make a run this year.


Uh, okay, Kreskin. If only I'd known.
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