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re: If healthy: What do you do with CJ, Boston, Hawkins, and Alvarado?

Posted on 11/17/24 at 9:44 am to
Posted by PELsu
Member since Oct 2021
1734 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 9:44 am to
Jose’s issue is his size. Not only in game deciding situations and playoffs, but also along side some of our other possible guards. Playing Boston as a pseudo backup PG allows a lot more flexibility with shooters like CJ and Hawkins because of his size.

PG- Murray/ Boston
SG- Herb/ CJ
SF- BI/ Green
PF- Zion/ Trey
C- Missi/ Theis (would love to improve backup 5)

If we are serious about winning, we are playing a center and not Hawkins. Hawkins’ defense has been a liability and his shooting efficiency isn’t good enough to make up for it. By no means am I out on him, but healthy and trying to win tomorrow, he’s not in.
Posted by kneenola
Member since Dec 2018
129 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 9:46 am to
Theis will be a healthy scratch until traded to bring us below the luxury tax. He becomes trade eligible Dec. 15th.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
32304 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 10:56 am to
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Hawkins’ defense has been a liability and his shooting efficiency isn’t good enough to make up for it.


I want to see him with Murray, herb, Ingram, and Murphy/zion on the floor.

The switchable nature might allow us to hide him while absolutely being a flame thrower shooting as the 4th option.

I know limited blah blah, but agreed on Boston being the better 3rd/4th guard option than hawk or alvarado. He is combining their strengths - solid defense and solid offense. Idk if it's just luck right now is my concern
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
13310 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 12:13 pm to
He was 50/40/90 before his back started becoming an issue.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20975 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:25 pm to
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Theis will be a healthy scratch until traded to bring us below the luxury tax. He becomes trade eligible Dec. 15th.



It will be interesting to see if we sign Brandon Boston to a regular contract. Two-way players can only play in 50 games in a season. Once others get healthy, we might just start holding him out of some games to delay that decision, but that decision will ultimately impact our tax issues.
Posted by Pistol44
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2019
2305 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 3:05 pm to
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delay that decision


And here is the gripe with the organization
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 3:08 pm to
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It will be interesting to see if we sign Brandon Boston to a regular contract. Two-way players can only play in 50 games in a season. Once others get healthy, we might just start holding him out of some games to delay that decision, but that decision will ultimately impact our tax issues.


They will not sign him until they get under the tax after a trade. It is literally the only reason they got rid of Matt Ryan- there was no need to cut him other than the tax.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
34587 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 4:38 pm to
Boston has earned more mins even when others are healthy.
Posted by Pistol44
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2019
2305 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 6:03 pm to
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They will not sign him until they get under the tax after a trade. It is literally the only reason they got rid of Matt Ryan


Only difference for Pels is that Boston is actually playing. Keep waiting and he’s going to want more than minimum salary.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 6:14 pm to
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Only difference for Pels is that Boston is actually playing. Keep waiting and he’s going to want more than minimum salary.


It seems like players will be coming back soon. His minutes will likely substantially decrease. This is a guy who was out of the league- hes not going to make salary demands. He’ll be a 2 way guy probably until after the deadline.
Posted by Pistol44
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2019
2305 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 6:53 pm to
Boston is the de facto backup point so he’ll get 15-20 minutes when team is healthy. He’s putting out good film.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 7:07 pm to
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Boston is the de facto backup point so he’ll get 15-20 minutes when team is healthy.


If we’re fully healthy how is he getting 15-20 minutes?? Just break it down- Dejounte, Herb, CJ, Trey, BI, Hawkins and even Jose. I love everything about Boston but he might get some DNPs if everyone is healthy. If hes in the rotation maybe 10 minutes but I feel that could be a lot.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20975 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 7:59 pm to
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Boston is the de facto backup point


I don't think he's a point.
Posted by Pistol44
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2019
2305 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 8:20 pm to
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This post was edited on 11/17/24 at 8:23 pm
Posted by Pistol44
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2019
2305 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 8:22 pm to
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I don’t think he’s a point


He’s a combo guard, but for the Pels he’lll get his minutes at point. His size and ability to handle defensive pressure getting into sets make him de facto.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 8:37 pm to
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His size and ability to handle defensive pressure getting into sets make him de facto.


I’m sorry he has completely struggled doing this since Jose has gone out. Hes actually much better off ball.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20975 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 9:43 pm to
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I’m sorry he has completely struggled doing this since Jose has gone out. Hes actually much better off ball.



Yeah, we could play Boston some at point if Zion is on the floor, because Zion can do so much ballhandling, but Boston won't otherwise play point on a healthy team. At 6'7", he's certainly big enough to guard opposing wings, so I could see him on the floor with Jose and Hawk.
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
13310 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 10:02 pm to
The rotations are going to be tough this year if they all get healthy. You have to imagine they will always have 3 of Murray, CJ, Herb, Trey, BI, and Z on the floor at all times.
Posted by Pistol44
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2019
2305 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 10:53 pm to
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Yeah, we could play Boston some at point if Zion is on the floor, because Zion can do so much ballhandling


See that's what I'd rather not happen. Zion and BI shouldn't see point duties again. They can be primary ballhandlers at times but too many turnovers.
Posted by Pistol44
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2019
2305 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 10:56 pm to
He's a point like Ron Harper from the Bulls. Not flashy but doesn't turn the ball over.
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