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How much can the Pels expect from Internal Growth?

Posted on 6/11/21 at 11:06 am
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61497 posts
Posted on 6/11/21 at 11:06 am
Do NAW and Hayes become starters next season? If so, who's the 5th starter, and possibly related, is Hayes playing 4 or 5?

NAW/Ingram/Zion/Hayes/Adams

This lineup intrigues me because defensively you free up Hayes to be a weak side help defender like AD was early in his career. You have Adams to clean up the boards and be an extra impediment in the lane. Nickeil is ok on defense but he can't do it alone. The perimeter defense in this lineup is probably only as good as Zion makes it, but he started showing improvement there towards the end.

Offensively, if Hayes 3 point shot is real, a big if, you can have Adams setting picks for Zion and Zion will be surrounded by 3 shooters that also can attack the basket.

I absolutely do not want to go into the season with this as the plan, but I do want to see this lineup given some run and see what happens.
This post was edited on 6/11/21 at 11:07 am
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115799 posts
Posted on 6/11/21 at 11:14 am to
I'd want Hayes as the future starter at the 5, and use Adams (if he is't moved) and Hayes depending on matchups this year.

If you think NAW is your future starter at PG...

Then you have to add one of two things:

2/3 3&D or 3/4 3&D.

One of those to be able to interchange with either Ingram or Zion.
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
17479 posts
Posted on 6/11/21 at 11:14 am to
We can't ... time is ticking on Zion
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61497 posts
Posted on 6/11/21 at 11:17 am to
quote:

We can't ... time is ticking on Zion


It takes 2 to tango. The FA market was already going to be weak, and the trade market is starting to look like we may need to do Dell Demps style trash for better fitting trash swaps.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115799 posts
Posted on 6/11/21 at 11:22 am to
As much as I really want some major changes...it just doesn't look like the market is going to materialize.

Our trade assets really don't start to need to be moved until next offseason.

So our best bet this offseason might be trash for better fitting trash, draft high upside at 10, S&Ts of Ball and Hart, etc.

Hoard the assets and see what materializes at the deadline and next offseason. I don't love it though.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9783 posts
Posted on 6/11/21 at 1:04 pm to
I love that people keep trying to project Ingram to play SG. But he did not play much, if at all, this season and never really has any part of his career. He is not a fit there. He does not have the foot speed. If anything, he is more apt to play the 4, especially with the way the league is trending..
Posted by LSUJD_04
Member since Feb 2021
1513 posts
Posted on 6/11/21 at 1:21 pm to
There’s not enough shooting in that lineup. Zion is a PF, not SF to me and Hayes is a 5 not a 4. Hopefully NAW, Zion and Hayes all work hard on their 3 point shot this off-season and we can add another good shooter to the mix.
Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
5736 posts
Posted on 6/11/21 at 1:26 pm to
I want NAW at the 2 not the 1...I go in with the mindset that point Zion is a thing for 40 minutes but we need a true facilitator to close out. That person plays "PG" but is more of a primary ball handler in crunch. Not sure NAW is that consistently. He seems to feel more confident at the 2.

Guys I look at that could maybe play into that role but also can shoot are:

Devonte Graham
Tomas Satoransky
Austin Rivers
Cory Joseph
Spencer Dinwiddie
Ryan Arcidiacono
Rajon Rondo
Jeff Teague
Posted by aswemajor
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2011
1703 posts
Posted on 6/11/21 at 3:43 pm to
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Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
6585 posts
Posted on 6/11/21 at 4:34 pm to
Since when can Rivers and Rondo shoot?
Posted by Wadey
Member since Sep 2020
1389 posts
Posted on 6/11/21 at 4:39 pm to
Wow Rivers I guess he has come a long way.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11502 posts
Posted on 6/11/21 at 4:44 pm to
I don't want Adams starting, when you have him in you are basically playing 4 on 5 on offense. Bring him off the bench when his skill set is warranted, but his skill set has no business starting in the NBA today.
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