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re: Hornets to get Ariza in 4-way trade

Posted on 8/11/10 at 1:23 pm to
Posted by THRILLHO
Old Metairie near Cleary
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 8/11/10 at 1:23 pm to
If Ariza's scoring drops, I still think he'll be more efficient a scorer than last season. I'm pretty happy with him as we haven't had a SF that wasn't a pussy in a long time, but yeah, that ESPN article makes me wonder if we could have gotten him for and expiring + a pick and used Collison to unload Posey for someone else.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/11/10 at 1:25 pm to
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I still think he'll be more efficient a scorer than last season.

i'd ask you to look at his FT%
Posted by YatTigah
Lakeview, New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2010
517 posts
Posted on 8/11/10 at 1:26 pm to
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i was comparing to AI2 at $13M per


isn't that what Peja's deal is for?

Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 8/11/10 at 1:26 pm to
What does our lineup look like with the JuJu trade added to this?
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 8/11/10 at 1:27 pm to
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even if ariza drops back down to the 10 ppg range?


As long as he's a lock down defender and is efficient with the opportunities he's given I don't care how many points he averages. We don't need him to be a scorer, just finish in transition and hit open jumpers. Most of the offense creation will come from Paul, West and Thornton.
Posted by YatTigah
Lakeview, New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2010
517 posts
Posted on 8/11/10 at 1:27 pm to
quote:

The Hornets didn't stop there. NBA front office sources told ESPN.com's Marc Stein that in a separate deal, the team agreed to send swingman Julian Wright to Toronto for Raptors guard Marco Belinelli. That deal, like the four-team trade, was also expected to be completed Wednesday.


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Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/11/10 at 1:28 pm to
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As long as he's a lock down defender and is efficient with the opportunities he's given I don't care how many points he averages.

at $7M/year?

for DC?

you can get defenders for much cheaper than that almost every year

hell you can sometimes find them in the 2nd round

Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
80355 posts
Posted on 8/11/10 at 1:28 pm to
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Unless CP could have convinced Melo to come here, which is highly unlikely, then we just traded the wrong PG IMO. Would have rather used Paul to package with Okafor for expirings/talent from Portland or something.


+1 We will be royally fricked if we can't get a big FA(Melo) in the next yr. CP will bolt and we'll be left flapping in the wind.
Posted by YatTigah
Lakeview, New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2010
517 posts
Posted on 8/11/10 at 1:29 pm to
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at $7M/year?

for DC?

you can get defenders for much cheaper than that almost every year

hell you can sometimes find them in the 2nd round


all that's true but since we've obviously hitched our wagon to CP3, i'd imagine Ariza is much more attractive to him than a 2nd round defensive guy.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 8/11/10 at 1:32 pm to
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Prob. so, this could all end up being a master plan package deal to get Melo later on.




Let it go
Posted by lsu31always
Team 31™
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Posted on 8/11/10 at 1:33 pm to
Cue MSU Meltdown
Posted by HARRY3740
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 8/11/10 at 1:34 pm to
The ESPN article about the ARIZA trade also says that the Hornets are sending JUJU to Toronto for Marco Bellinelli.
Posted by gorillaballin
uptown nola y'heard
Member since Dec 2007
557 posts
Posted on 8/11/10 at 1:35 pm to
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Marco Belinelli


Is this guy garbage? Don't really know of him. Suppose we have to pick up a backup PG at some point
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 8/11/10 at 1:37 pm to
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you can get defenders for much cheaper than that almost every year


This reminds me of people saying Linebackers were easy to pick up when the Saints couldn't find a good one during the Haslett years. I'm not saying you're wrong, just that the Hornets hadn't been very good at it considering that Pondexter was probably the best defender on the team before this deal. And I agree with you in general Slow, this probably wasn't close to an optimal deal, but it does improve the team at a position of need. It's also a player in his prime unlike the moves to get Peja, Posey and MoPete, so it could have been worse.

Anyone know much about Belinelli? Sounds like a Rudy Fernandez type of player:

quote:

Great outside shooter... Good athlete... Great leaping skills... Good ballhandling skills... Very coordinated... Should attack the basket more... Not very strong.

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Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/11/10 at 1:38 pm to
hard to know what belineli will do in a real offensive system, but he can hit 3s

basically our offense looks like cp3 drives and either west shoots a 20 footer, or we shoot a 3
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 8/11/10 at 1:39 pm to
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Is this guy garbage?


He doesn't sound like garbage, Toronto just has some players they like better in front of him with Derozan and Sonny Weems.
Posted by tigerguy121
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2006
10695 posts
Posted on 8/11/10 at 1:42 pm to
Belineli should start cause he looks like the guy who could really benefit from having CP3 set the table for him, and Thornton is our 2nd squad scorer.

Could have made worse moves, but at least these moves weren't desgined ONLY with money in mind
Posted by Hank Marducas
Sittin' on the dock of the bay
Member since Sep 2009
5691 posts
Posted on 8/11/10 at 1:42 pm to
He can hit some threes.
Posted by YatTigah
Lakeview, New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2010
517 posts
Posted on 8/11/10 at 1:43 pm to
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basically our offense looks like cp3 drives and either west shoots a 20 footer, or we shoot a 3


which is basically the same as it's always been, except now we should have guys (Peja, Belinelli, Thornton, Ariza) who can actually hit those 3's
Posted by gorillaballin
uptown nola y'heard
Member since Dec 2007
557 posts
Posted on 8/11/10 at 1:44 pm to
Well he HAS to be better than JUJU and he is now filling a position of need...
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