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re: Herb Jones Bandwagon
Posted on 1/26/23 at 12:51 pm to whatiknowsofar
Posted on 1/26/23 at 12:51 pm to whatiknowsofar
Love Herb for what he brings, and TBH, him not being the next Kawhi sort of makes it a lot easier to keep some of these key utility guys around.
At this point, I don't see Herb commanding a big pay increase. Which means we can likely hold on to him as long as we want
At this point, I don't see Herb commanding a big pay increase. Which means we can likely hold on to him as long as we want
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Posted on 1/26/23 at 1:14 pm to Bronc
I'm starting to move in the direction of giving up a 1 for Bogdanovich also.
The Lakers are probably making the playoffs at this point. That 1 ain't what it used to be. We need shooting desperately.
The Lakers are probably making the playoffs at this point. That 1 ain't what it used to be. We need shooting desperately.
Posted on 1/26/23 at 1:17 pm to TigerinATL
If Anunoby wants to come here and be the ultimate role player, and not get as many points as he'd like but simply play great D and hit open 3's, then i say use all these draft picks we have and lets build our contender and compete for the next 4 years, assuming they are ok paying the tax next year, b/c we'll be about $10M over it even after letting Kira go and bringing in a minimum contract to replace him, and also signing EJ and another minimum guy, filling the 15 spots.
If they want 3 1sts, so be it.
Billy/Poeltl/Richardson to Raptors with 2 Pels 1st
DG/Jax/Birch to Spurs with 1 Pels 1st
OG/Precious to Pelicans
would be nice if we could get a 2nd from SAS this year.
Go tell Dwight Howard to quit farting around in the Taiwan league and sign him for that 15th roster spot.
We got 4 years to win a title with CJ/BI/OG/Zion, and we have enough role players to do it. IF we can't win it with that lineup, then it just ain't to be.
We have Dyson/Trey/Jose/Nance all tied up for next 3 years. Naji won't be hard to retain, and neither will Precious if we want him. We still have EJ to see what he becomes. The only question mark is the center position, and i really don't worry too much about it b/c we should really only need a defensive big, not a guy who can shoot and/or score.
If they want 3 1sts, so be it.
Billy/Poeltl/Richardson to Raptors with 2 Pels 1st
DG/Jax/Birch to Spurs with 1 Pels 1st
OG/Precious to Pelicans
would be nice if we could get a 2nd from SAS this year.
Go tell Dwight Howard to quit farting around in the Taiwan league and sign him for that 15th roster spot.
We got 4 years to win a title with CJ/BI/OG/Zion, and we have enough role players to do it. IF we can't win it with that lineup, then it just ain't to be.
We have Dyson/Trey/Jose/Nance all tied up for next 3 years. Naji won't be hard to retain, and neither will Precious if we want him. We still have EJ to see what he becomes. The only question mark is the center position, and i really don't worry too much about it b/c we should really only need a defensive big, not a guy who can shoot and/or score.
Posted on 1/26/23 at 1:22 pm to TeddyPadillac
quote:
If Anunoby wants to come here and be the ultimate role player, and not get as many points as he'd like but simply play great D and hit open 3's, then i say use all these draft picks we have and lets build our contender and compete for the next 4 years, assuming they are ok paying the tax next year, b/c we'll be about $10M over it even after letting Kira go and bringing in a minimum contract to replace him, and also signing EJ and another minimum guy, filling the 15 spots.
If they want 3 1sts, so be it.
Billy/Poeltl/Richardson to Raptors with 2 Pels 1st
DG/Jax/Birch to Spurs with 1 Pels 1st
OG/Precious to Pelicans
would be nice if we could get a 2nd from SAS this year.
Go tell Dwight Howard to quit farting around in the Taiwan league and sign him for that 15th roster spot.
We got 4 years to win a title with CJ/BI/OG/Zion, and we have enough role players to do it. IF we can't win it with that lineup, then it just ain't to be.
We have Dyson/Trey/Jose/Nance all tied up for next 3 years. Naji won't be hard to retain, and neither will Precious if we want him. We still have EJ to see what he becomes. The only question mark is the center position, and i really don't worry too much about it b/c we should really only need a defensive big, not a guy who can shoot and/or score.
OG is reportedly upset with his role in toronto. If he's unhappy there then he would for sure be unhappy here as the 4th option
Posted on 1/26/23 at 1:23 pm to TeddyPadillac
Heck no. You don't empty the war chest for a dude who isn't even all star level.
Posted on 1/26/23 at 1:31 pm to ghost2most
Here's the issue. Herb plays D, Trey doesn't. Until Zion and BI are healthy, we can rotate them in and out accordingly.
Posted on 1/26/23 at 1:37 pm to Bronc
quote:
Herb is just a bad shooter
Maybe shooting challenged
… Seriously though Draymond doesnt have 4 rings for his shooting
This post was edited on 1/26/23 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 1/26/23 at 1:39 pm to ghost2most
quote:Unless you're getting rid of 1 of CJ/Zion/BI, we can't afford to add an all star level player due to tax implications.
Heck no. You don't empty the war chest for a dude who isn't even all star level.
This post was edited on 1/26/23 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 1/26/23 at 1:43 pm to Pistol44
quote:
Seriously though Draymond doesnt have 4 rings for his shooting
True but Draymond is an actual all nba defender, can actually rebound (something Herb depressingly lacks), and facilitates. Who knows maybe he’ll improve but the regression is a bit worrying
This post was edited on 1/26/23 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 1/26/23 at 1:43 pm to Pistol44
Draymond is a power forward so it's less problematic than a guard/wing like Herb. Besides, Green can facilitate at an elite level so he's still an offensive weapon.
Posted on 1/26/23 at 1:47 pm to shel311
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Unless you're getting rid of 1 of CJ/Zion/BI, we can't afford to add an all star level player due to tax implications.
Not that Im in favor of 3 Max and 1 near max contract, but is it cant or prefer not to? if Pels swap salary at deadline aren't they in the same position until next year when they are over due to Zion’s extension anyways?
Posted on 1/26/23 at 1:47 pm to Balsamic_duck
quote:
OG is reportedly upset with his role in toronto. If he's unhappy there then he would for sure be unhappy here as the 4th option
i would agree, which is why i said IF he's wants to come here and be the ultimate role player.
If that's not what he wants, then don't trade for him.
Posted on 1/26/23 at 1:51 pm to Pistol44
quote:Prefer not to...and by that I mean not me, it's not my money. But I'm assuming Gayle would prefer not to.
Not that Im in favor of 3 Max and 1 near max contract, but is it cant or prefer not to?
Of course we can, but logically speaking, I doubt there's much chance we go become a repeater tax team.
quote:It's best to do whatever it takes to stay under this season at this point and plan to go over next season. But again, even in thinking we may go over next season, it doesn't mean we'll go wayyyyyy over because the tax escalates the more over the tax you go.
if Pels swap salary at deadline aren't they in the same position until next year when they are over due to Zion’s extension anyways?
This post was edited on 1/26/23 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 1/26/23 at 1:52 pm to supe12sta12z
For sure you and Mac are both right, Draymond brings prime facilitation and rebounding. My point was that everyone on the floor doesn't have to be a dead-eye.
Posted on 1/26/23 at 1:56 pm to Pistol44
quote:I get all the reasons why it's not a good idea but purely basketball/on court, Draymond on this team would be an awesome fit.
Draymond brings prime facilitation and rebounding. My point was that everyone on the floor doesn't have to be a dead-eye.
Like you said, nope he can't shoot but what he does do, even on offense, would make up for it IMO.
The defense stuff is obvious. But people don't give Draymond his due as legit one of the smartest basketball players of our generation. He's Lebron/CP3 level smart, offensively too. The things he does even specifically when dudes are playing off of him would greatly benefit us. The DHO, screening for, say, CJ's man would open up easy 3s for CJ. He's a great passer/facilitator which we are lacking. He would be awesome in theory for us on court.
Posted on 1/26/23 at 1:57 pm to shel311
quote:
I'm assuming Gayle would prefer not to
OK got it, so Mrs. B. saying this is a show me year.
Posted on 1/26/23 at 1:59 pm to Pistol44
quote:Again, nothing outright has confirmed this, it's just my opinion on how I think it's going to be treated.
OK got it, so Mrs. B. saying this is a show me year.
Maybe she says let's pay the tax every year, money ain't a thing...but I doubt it.
This post was edited on 1/26/23 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 1/26/23 at 2:04 pm to shel311
And also Draymond fits perfectly on a team where they already have elite scorers and perimeter shooters. We just have CJ and sometimes Trey. BI can shoot but he just doesn’t take a ton of 3s.
Posted on 1/26/23 at 5:11 pm to supe12sta12z
quote:
Draymond is a power forward so it's less problematic than a guard/wing like Herb
Playing Herb at the four (as a backup) is a role he should be considered for.
Then you’re looking at Daniels on the perimeter and Herb in the wing/ post. Murphy and Lewis?
Either way, when the shooting slumps, the deep team suddenly looks less deep.
Posted on 1/26/23 at 5:14 pm to shel311
quote:
I get all the reasons why it's not a good idea but purely basketball/on court, Draymond on this team would be an awesome fit.
i disagree, and i don't want that arse wipe near this team.
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