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re: Herb joins Trey on Team USA practice squad

Posted on 8/3/23 at 11:29 am to
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 8/3/23 at 11:29 am to
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Pels had a team option with Herb for this coming year at $1.8M. It's a business. You don't just "give away" a great option like that...for nothing
Correct, they gave him more now(this coming season) and in return the total value of the deal is less than Herb likely would have gotten next offseason if he has a "normal" Herb type year.

Pros/cons on both sides:

- Pels pay more now, likely less long term
- Herb gets guaranteed money 1 year early but risks the potential to have earned more if waiting 1 more year
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25568 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 11:33 am to
2nd round picks and undrafted guys don't become RFA's when their rookie contract is up like 1st round picks. They become unrestricted free agents free to sign with anyone.

by declining his club option this year made him become a RFA so they could give him the new contract.
The same thing is going to happen to Jose next offseason assuming he continues his stellar play and warrants a new contract.
Posted by saintslsupels
Member since Jul 2014
1777 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 11:53 am to
Didn’t realize that, really good point. Waiting til next offseason when Herb is an unrestricted free agent makes absolutely no sense. Good move by Griff.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32477 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 10:00 pm to
Exactly.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115871 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 5:12 pm to
quote:

USA’s Select team defeated USA’s FIBA World Cup team in two consecutive 10-minute scrimmages at training camp today
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
17854 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 5:34 pm to
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2nd round picks and undrafted guys don't become RFA's when their rookie contract is up like 1st round picks. They become unrestricted free agents free to sign with anyone.



Can you point me to a source? Because I don't think that this is quite right.

If I remember correctly, 1st-round picks are given fully-guaranteed contracts, but there's nothing that prevents a 2nd-round pick from getting one, and I think we gave Herb the same kind of contract that he'd have gotten if he were a 1st-round pick.

I'm pretty sure that Herb was going to be a RFA after next season, if we hadn't declined the option to sign him to a new deal.
This post was edited on 8/4/23 at 5:38 pm
Posted by saintslsupels
Member since Jul 2014
1777 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 5:45 pm to
Just did some research, Teddy is wrong. Any player who’s been in the league for three years or less that isn’t a first round pick is a restricted free agent. So Herb would still have been a restricted free agent next season.

LINK
Posted by DallasTiger45
Member since May 2012
8428 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 6:01 pm to
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Can you point me to a source? Because I don't think that this is quite right. If I remember correctly, 1st-round picks are given fully-guaranteed contracts, but there's nothing that prevents a 2nd-round pick from getting one, and I think we gave Herb the same kind of contract that he'd have gotten if he were a 1st-round pick. I'm pretty sure that Herb was going to be a RFA after next season, if we hadn't declined the option to sign him to a new deal.


It’s 100% not correct as a blanket statement. Austin Reaves was just a high profile restricted free agent after his 2 year contract with the Lakers. Even two-way players are often restricted free agents.

There’s language on the nba website about restricted free agency that I interpret to mean: any player whose contract expires after playing 3 or less seasons becomes a restricted free agent instead of an unrestricted free agent (pending qualifying offer when applicable)

Posted by Dinky Mulberry
Member since Aug 2021
1846 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 9:28 pm to
Just a well-thought-out agreement (of course, it couldn't be worked out ahead of time...before the Pels decided to drop their "team option" on Herb...because well uhhh... that just wouldn't be "right"). Benefits for both sides...by turning down the "team option"...among them, Pels got to adjust "money per year" starting this year, which will be quite helpful in the future and Herb got his guaranteed bag of the additional $52M on top of his $1.8M...& he doesn't have to worry (as far as $$ is concerned, anyway) about blowing out a knee this year.

Solid & fair deal by both sides...imo. It's almost like the guys that put this deal together, do this kinda stuff for a livin'...or something.
This post was edited on 8/4/23 at 9:37 pm
Posted by Bill Parker?
Member since Jan 2013
4473 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 10:51 pm to
So what you're trying to say is, Not on Herbert.
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