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re: Hawkins
Posted on 3/24/25 at 4:08 pm to ramchallenge
Posted on 3/24/25 at 4:08 pm to ramchallenge
I was huge on Hawk but his size, along with terrible handle, and the ability to get moved off his spot by literally anyone in the NBA, has me okay to trade.
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 4:50 pm to Dantheman504
quote:I hear you.
I can't give you a great answer on this other than "he played well" but he has averaged
13pts/ 5ast/ 3reb/ 1stl at 19y/o to 20 y/o.
That's pretty damn good for the type of team he plays on. He is the type of player that could definitely take off in the next 1-2 years
Edit: Not sure who DVed this but I'm willing to bet they are too stupid to process he was a teenager who is on the 2nd year of his contract. I'm also willing to bet this same person didn't believe in Dyson. Only idiots have had bad opinions on 19y/o in their 2nd year.
I'm just less so interested in that it was stated he'd be good and hasn't been. That's hard, that happens all the time.
I just don't get how his comps were always mostly Westbrook/Rose/Wall types....and I haven't seen 1/100th of that athleticism from him. That's a miss that I can't really comprehend, unless he did have that type of athleticism, but then where did it go since he got to the NBA?
He either lost it and I'm wondering how, or he never had it and I'm wondering how he got those uber athletic dudes as his comps all the time....
Posted on 3/24/25 at 4:57 pm to shel311
quote:
I just don't get how his comps were always mostly Westbrook/Rose/Wall types
I'll be honest I don't even remember seeing those comps. Especially any comparing him to Westbrook.
I thought it was understood that he could not facilitate, rebound, or play defense and he was drafted to be a pure shooter.
Posted on 3/24/25 at 7:24 pm to 50_Tiger
quote:
was huge on Hawk but his size, along with terrible handle, and the ability to get moved off his spot by literally anyone in the NBA, has me okay to trade.
Oh really? You’re OK to trade one of the statistically worst players in the league? I’m sure teams will be lining up
Posted on 3/24/25 at 8:47 pm to 50_Tiger
i dont want the pels to sell low on Hawk but Reeves makes him expendable.
Posted on 3/24/25 at 9:23 pm to Delusional
Agreed. Reeves has been looking great everytime they give him minutes.
Posted on 3/25/25 at 6:42 am to shel311
quote:
I don't get how Scoot ever got comps to the very, very shortlist of most athletic NBA players to ever play when he looks nothing like that.
I don't follow prospects, why did he get those comps? Was he actually that explosive and athletic before the NBA? If so, WTF happened and where did it go?
Every time I saw clips of him in the G-league I had the same questions you do now. He never looked that explosive.
Posted on 3/25/25 at 6:44 am to Dantheman504
quote:
I'll be honest I don't even remember seeing those comps. Especially any comparing him to Westbrook.
I thought it was understood that he could not facilitate, rebound, or play defense and he was drafted to be a pure shooter.
shel is talking about Scoot
You are talking about Hawkins, I believe
Posted on 3/25/25 at 9:41 am to duyp
At this point I feel like Reeves has the same potential as Hawkins. Hawk needs to be a sharpshooter or else there's no reason to give him minutes. So far he's a bad 3 point shooter, and until that changes Hawk is nothing more than a fringe nba prospect.
Posted on 3/25/25 at 9:48 am to saintslsupels
quote:
same potential as Hawkins
Reeves is an older player who has shot consistently (outside of his first 2 years in college) when he's played and progressed in his career.
3 Years at Illinois State
43.9/34.8/77.6
2 Years at Kentucky
46.7/42.2/83.0
And now in his 1st year in the NBA
45.3/40.8/84.6
Hawkins on the other hand.
UCONN 2 years:
35.3/33.3/82.1
40.9/38.8/88.7
and now 2 years NBA:
38.2/36.6/83.8
37.5/33.2/81.3
Sometimes its just the guy isn't all that good and his outlier was actually the 38.8% season.
Posted on 3/25/25 at 2:00 pm to shel311
quote:
don't get how Scoot ever got comps to the very, very shortlist of most athletic NBA players to ever play when he looks nothing like that.
I don't follow prospects, why did he get those comps? Was he actually that explosive and athletic before the NBA? If so, WTF happened and where did it go?
Remember all the people wanting to trade zion for him both during the draft and even way after.
Posted on 3/25/25 at 2:03 pm to Silverfoxx
quote:
Who is triple J?
Jaime jarquez Jr.
They have a story out about erik spoletra's ex wife and jarquez Jr supposedly hooking up.
She did like every post on his Instagram for yrs and is supposedly friends with his mom and sister.
Posted on 3/26/25 at 9:47 am to Dantheman504
I can guarantee I have been a fan longer than you lol. Well we gave up NAW for CJ, yall seemed to be okay with that. quick to hate on Hawk but forget Willie was not helping his development in his first year. He could've easily had more minutes his rookie season, Willies terrible decision making in rotations did not help his development as a player and now hes being thrown in because of health still learning the game because of the lack of time in his first year. however he is scoring more, getting more steals, assist and rebounds, yes his shooting % dropped a little 36 - 33 but its expected hes still learning the nba game.
Posted on 3/26/25 at 10:04 am to TigersX337
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Well we gave up NAW for CJ, yall seemed to be okay with that.
CJ is still the better player. He is what this team needed short and long term.
For all of NAW's issues, he was improving year after year offensively and had always been a good defender since he had the speed and length
Hawkins is a different picture. He's supposed to be a good shooter, yet he can't hit a wide open shot vs g league guys. While a guy like reeves would replace him in the rotation, come in, run the same plays, yet knocking it down.
I'm ready for a new coach to dictate that, but Willie drew up good plays for him. He still couldnt make those shots. He can't be depended on
Posted on 3/26/25 at 10:55 am to htran90
I’m very discouraged by hawk’s failure to improve.
He had those crazy games against the mavs last year where he looked like a future star.
His stroke is so pure.
We went from the next ray allen and Paul George calling this guy out for how good he is to running him out.
I have to wonder if the back injury is why he’s been so bad.
He had those crazy games against the mavs last year where he looked like a future star.
His stroke is so pure.
We went from the next ray allen and Paul George calling this guy out for how good he is to running him out.
I have to wonder if the back injury is why he’s been so bad.
Posted on 3/26/25 at 3:09 pm to ghost2most
I'd give Hawk another year. As AD says, not everybody develops at the same rate.
He's so light that he's going to get bullied on both offense and defense. He is, however, a better athlete than I thought in terms of his vertical, so he can get blocks, boards and has a high release point on his jumper.
The problem is, as pointed out, he just hasn't done the shooting. And that's what he's here for. He's never going to be a lead guard. His handle isn't anywhere near a guy like Curry. He's got to be an elite mover off the ball and a 40%+/- shooter from behind the arc to stick in the league. Otherwise his cons well outweigh his pros as a player.
So far he isn't close to that. But I'd give him another year and hopefully a new coach to see if he can take that step.
He's so light that he's going to get bullied on both offense and defense. He is, however, a better athlete than I thought in terms of his vertical, so he can get blocks, boards and has a high release point on his jumper.
The problem is, as pointed out, he just hasn't done the shooting. And that's what he's here for. He's never going to be a lead guard. His handle isn't anywhere near a guy like Curry. He's got to be an elite mover off the ball and a 40%+/- shooter from behind the arc to stick in the league. Otherwise his cons well outweigh his pros as a player.
So far he isn't close to that. But I'd give him another year and hopefully a new coach to see if he can take that step.
Posted on 3/26/25 at 5:07 pm to New City Champ
I think his best comp would be Malik Beasley
Posted on 3/26/25 at 6:25 pm to Balsamic_duck
quote:
Seriously. We drafted him for one skill and he sucks at it.
He’s owed 7m the last year of his rookie deal. The Pels need to hurry up and decline that option before they have to use picks to dump him like they did Kira
I think they will try to move him. At 7 mil you keep his contract if you can't.
This post was edited on 3/26/25 at 6:30 pm
Posted on 3/26/25 at 6:33 pm to Chalkywhite84
He's not due 7 mil until the 26/27 season. He's still only due 4.7 mil next season. He's not worth much on the market with the sample size now. They may just keep him going into next season unless he's packaged into a trade. Hard to see anyone trading anything worthwhile for him right now.
Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:22 pm to supe12sta12z
I'm not sure why we don't move him to the g league, it helped trey develop consistency in his shooting and defense.
Lots of us were writing him off early on.
Lots of us were writing him off early on.
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