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Give me your bottom 3 that you DO NOT want the Pels to take at 8 spot
Posted on 5/27/22 at 10:17 pm
Posted on 5/27/22 at 10:17 pm
Who are 3 guys that are projected to be selected around the 8 spot that you wouldn’t want the Pelicans to pick?
Mine are:
Jalen Duren: raw big who can’t shoot is a big no no especially at 8
Johnny Davis: I think he’ll be a bench player similar to Hart. Not a bad player but lacks the size to counter his lack of athleticism. But he does play hard.
AJ Griffin: was intrigued by him early on until you start dissecting his tape. Foot speed and lateral quickness defensively is pretty bad right now. Not very athletic after his injuries. Injury prone so far in his career. Makes his 3s and shows some offensive upside/ and has a great wingspan and frame that may help him defensively but may struggle a bit more than others early in his career.
Mine are:
Jalen Duren: raw big who can’t shoot is a big no no especially at 8
Johnny Davis: I think he’ll be a bench player similar to Hart. Not a bad player but lacks the size to counter his lack of athleticism. But he does play hard.
AJ Griffin: was intrigued by him early on until you start dissecting his tape. Foot speed and lateral quickness defensively is pretty bad right now. Not very athletic after his injuries. Injury prone so far in his career. Makes his 3s and shows some offensive upside/ and has a great wingspan and frame that may help him defensively but may struggle a bit more than others early in his career.
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Posted on 5/27/22 at 10:52 pm to Macintosh504
I don't have a three from the players in that range but I don't want Griffin or Duren! I'm with you on those two. I say if Sharpe is on the board at 5, we should trade up. He's going to be a stud!
Posted on 5/27/22 at 10:57 pm to Macintosh504
The two centers: Duren and Williams.
I wouldn't HATE any of the other reasonable options at 8. But I guess i'll say Griffin. I think he'll at least be able to make a 3 at a decent rate. I just don't see how his athleticism magically reappears.
I wouldn't HATE any of the other reasonable options at 8. But I guess i'll say Griffin. I think he'll at least be able to make a 3 at a decent rate. I just don't see how his athleticism magically reappears.
Posted on 5/27/22 at 11:08 pm to Macintosh504
Davis measured just under 6'6" with a +3" wingspan... that is fine for a guard that can guard wings in a pinch. I think his floor is pretty high and with his playmaking he will at worst be a solid 3rd guard off the bench. Maybe not the upside you'd like with the 8th pick but he'll probably end up better than the average 8th pick.
Posted on 5/27/22 at 11:35 pm to Macintosh504
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AJ Griffin
Agreed. His biggest selling point is that in his one freshman year in college he shot 45% from 3, which we all can agree is outstanding. But has so many other concerns, which you listed.
But the Mathurin also shot 42% as a frosh & still shot a laudable 37% in his soph season. Plus he shows defensive promise & no injury concerns.
Posted on 5/27/22 at 11:35 pm to Macintosh504
Me and you are on the same page with this fam
Posted on 5/28/22 at 12:05 am to Macintosh504
1. AJ Griffin
2. AJ Griffin
3. AJ Griffin
I think Ican talk myself into just about any of the prospects ranked in the top 15ish.
AJ Griffin is probably the one guy that would make me think "oh frick".
Oh and Sharpe too...
2. AJ Griffin
3. AJ Griffin
I think Ican talk myself into just about any of the prospects ranked in the top 15ish.
AJ Griffin is probably the one guy that would make me think "oh frick".
Oh and Sharpe too...
This post was edited on 5/28/22 at 12:07 am
Posted on 5/28/22 at 12:59 am to Kerchek
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Oh and Sharpe too...
Wild. I get skepticism, but how can you be out on a young guard with size, skill, very likely good shooting ability, and probably the most athleticism in the draft
Posted on 5/28/22 at 5:48 am to LilWezyAna
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get skepticism, but how can you be out on a young guard with size, skill, very likely good shooting ability, and probably the most athleticism in the draft
I heard there are attitude issues with him, along with a weird group that is guiding him. I don't know how true that is though. More will come out during the interview process. Definite red flags.
Posted on 5/28/22 at 7:48 am to brmark70816
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I heard there are attitude issues with him, along with a weird group that is guiding him. I don't know how true that is though. More will come out during the interview process. Definite red flags.
Yeah I think this is key. I put him in my three that I wanted, but I don’t think there’s room on this team for two players with very meddling families.
Posted on 5/28/22 at 9:39 am to Macintosh504
I don’t think there’s anyone we realistically would pick that I wouldn’t want. The two centers I guess, I just don’t see the point in taking a center that high that can’t defend 1-5 or has guard skills. I guess if I had to add a third it would be Eason.
Posted on 5/28/22 at 9:47 am to Kerchek
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1. AJ Griffin 2. AJ Griffin 3. AJ Griffin
I’m starting to think Griffin will be an all world talent now. I’ve never seen so many people agree that a prospect will be so bad (myself included). I’m going to dive deeper into his film to see why everyone is out on him. Gotta admit that 45% 3pt shooting wouldn’t be a bad thing to have
Posted on 5/28/22 at 10:16 am to Louisianabound88
You don't have to dig too deep to get turned off of Griffin.
My 3 to stay away from would be:
1.Griffin- injury prone, bad defender, and his shot form is just so weird, that I can't fully trust it. That's the simple, dumbed down reasoning behind avoiding Griffin like the plague.
2. Duren- Don't want a traditional 5 in the lottery unless that player can stretch the floor with his shooting. Duren can't, but there's some whispers about Williams being a decent shooter. I could see him developing an Ayton like mid-range game. Wouldn't take either at 8 though.
3. I don't dislike him as a prospect, but if we took Dieng at 8, I would be disappointed. If we traded down to 11-13 and took him, then I'd be cool with it.
My 3 to stay away from would be:
1.Griffin- injury prone, bad defender, and his shot form is just so weird, that I can't fully trust it. That's the simple, dumbed down reasoning behind avoiding Griffin like the plague.
2. Duren- Don't want a traditional 5 in the lottery unless that player can stretch the floor with his shooting. Duren can't, but there's some whispers about Williams being a decent shooter. I could see him developing an Ayton like mid-range game. Wouldn't take either at 8 though.
3. I don't dislike him as a prospect, but if we took Dieng at 8, I would be disappointed. If we traded down to 11-13 and took him, then I'd be cool with it.
Posted on 5/28/22 at 10:51 am to Macintosh504
Ochai
Duren
Davis
Duren
Davis
Posted on 5/28/22 at 11:42 am to Lester Earl
I’d put Ochai over Griffin as well. I just didn’t see him as a guy who would get drafted 8th
Posted on 5/28/22 at 11:43 am to LilWezyAna
His size isn't that impressive be measured under 6-5' albeit with a long wingspan.
What makes you believe in his skill so much? He only faced highschool level competition and didn't look THAT impressive especially defensively.
He shot 36% from 3 in HS... again not that impressive.
Shapre has a bunch of vertical athleticism but he still struggles with lateral quickness. Struggled getting separation in isolation in highschool and relied on jumping and shooting over his defender. His athleticism is greatly exaggerated.
There's also rumors generating about his attitude problem. Why did he abruptly leave the combine and refuse interviews?
Odd...
Couple in his lack of effort on defense and I just don't buy him as this elite prospect.
What makes you believe in his skill so much? He only faced highschool level competition and didn't look THAT impressive especially defensively.
He shot 36% from 3 in HS... again not that impressive.
Shapre has a bunch of vertical athleticism but he still struggles with lateral quickness. Struggled getting separation in isolation in highschool and relied on jumping and shooting over his defender. His athleticism is greatly exaggerated.
There's also rumors generating about his attitude problem. Why did he abruptly leave the combine and refuse interviews?
Odd...
Couple in his lack of effort on defense and I just don't buy him as this elite prospect.
This post was edited on 5/28/22 at 11:47 am
Posted on 5/28/22 at 11:46 am to Macintosh504
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I’d put Ochai over Griffin as well. I just didn’t see him as a guy who would get drafted 8th
Advanced 18yr old > capped out 22yr old
Posted on 5/28/22 at 12:15 pm to Kerchek
Everyone: “ we can’t tell anything based on high school tape”
Kercheck: “hold my beer brether”
Kercheck: “hold my beer brether”
Posted on 5/28/22 at 5:06 pm to LilWezyAna
Love sharpe.
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