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re: First day of the season conference predictions
Posted on 10/19/22 at 10:19 am to whatiknowsofar
Posted on 10/19/22 at 10:19 am to whatiknowsofar
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I don't think Luka is enough of a leader to reign in a guy like Wood.
I know there is this weird headcannon several years running with Wood, but there is nothing to reign in
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Wood, who previously said his main objective was to get Dallas to the NBA Finals, echoed McGee’s mindset.
“That’s what we stand by, that’s what these guys stand by, and we’re going to live by that all season,” said Wood about winning above all else being the biggest goal.
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At media day, Christian Wood did something that touched my heart. Despite it being a small thing, it was a great gesture and an even greater sign of how Wood has already bought into it the chemistry and winning culture.
Wood passed rookie Jaden Hardy, who was giving an interview to various reporters. “He’s a steal,” Wood calls out. Hardy’s shy grin shows what this small gesture really means to him.
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Posted on 10/19/22 at 10:21 am to Bronc
Didn't he refused to play in a basketball game last season?
This post was edited on 10/19/22 at 10:22 am
Posted on 10/19/22 at 10:25 am to shel311
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He refused to play in a basketball game last season.
The whole team was having issues, Kevin Porter Jr. also was suspended in the incident and after they discussed it he showed up every day and played his butt off.
Went 19-10-2.4 on 43% from three the rest of the season, fetched a first from Dallas for his expiring.
Has embraced the 6th man role even if he was shocked initially(and I get it, it's sort of dumb)
He clearly has some maturity issues and emotions get hot at times, but there is a HUGE gap between that and the sort of ridiculous "cancer" labels some paint with
This post was edited on 10/19/22 at 10:28 am
Posted on 10/19/22 at 10:27 am to Bronc
quote:The only 2 guys who were suspended are the 2 guys who have a bit of a reputation before this incident, coincidence?
The whole team was having issues
The whole team didn't refuse to check into a basketball game, but Christian Wood did.
This post was edited on 10/19/22 at 10:28 am
Posted on 10/19/22 at 10:29 am to shel311
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The only 2 guys who were suspended are the 2 guys who have a bit of a reputation before this incident, coincidence?
The whole team didn't refuse to check into a basketball game, but Christian Wood did.
And Kevin Porter Jr. was just extended and Wood has been a model citizen since the incident and into Dallas.
So why do some of you ONLY want to pretend like the bad incidents define him?
Posted on 10/19/22 at 10:30 am to Bronc
quote:You said "there's nothing to reign in" and now it's shifted to bad incidents don't define him. THat's an entirely different argument.
So why do some of you ONLY want to pretend like the bad incidents define him?
The dude refused to play in a basketball game just a few months ago. There's clearly things that Dallas are hoping they can reign in and aren't issues like he's had in the past, refusing to play not being the only one.
Posted on 10/19/22 at 10:34 am to shel311
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You said "there's nothing to reign in" and now it's shifted to bad incidents don't define him. THat's an entirely different argument.
If someone is acting like a model citizen, what is there to reign in?
If Wood were acting with any of the behavior you or that poster wanted to project, you'd have a point, but he isn't
Do you punish/treat differently your children/nephews/employees/friends whatever for behaviors they aren't exhibiting, and haven't toward you? I would hope not, cause thats a real quick way to build up resentment and destroy trust.
Posted on 10/19/22 at 10:46 am to Bronc
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If someone is acting like a model citizen, what is there to reign in?
If Wood were acting with any of the behavior you or that poster wanted to project, you'd have a point, but he isn't
It's easy to be a model citizen in the offseason, but even that presser about him finding out he's the 6th man is at bare minimum concerning to an extent.
What's not easy is getting benched after going 0-4 in 5 minutes in the middle of a losing streak and handling it with grace.
When the going gets tough, the tough get going, and Christian Wood has not proven that he is mentally built that way.
I still find it very interesting that you're ignoring all of the reports of him being a malcontent at all of his stops. There's proof of him being a bad teammate all over the place yet because he's been good for one offseason all of that magically goes away in your head.
This post was edited on 10/19/22 at 10:48 am
Posted on 10/19/22 at 10:50 am to hassan whiteside
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WEST
1. Clippers
2. Nuggets
3. Warriors
4. Suns
5. Grizzlies
6. Pelicans
7. Mavericks
8. Wolves
so pels meet the defending champs in your round 1.
alas.
This post was edited on 10/19/22 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 10/19/22 at 10:51 am to whatiknowsofar
quote:I really don't understand the argument that there is nothing to be concerned about because he hasn't done anything bad since the last time he's done something bad.
I still find it very interesting that you're ignoring all of the reports of him being a malcontent at all of his stops. There's proof of him being a bad teammate all over the place yet because he's been good for one offseason all of that magically goes away in your head.
And again, if the whole team had issues, is it truly a coincidence that the 2 players with the bad reputations were the only 2 to get suspended? Seems unlikely to be a coincidence.
This post was edited on 10/19/22 at 10:51 am
Posted on 10/19/22 at 10:54 am to whatiknowsofar
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It's easy to be a model citizen in the offseason, but even that presser about him finding out he's the 6th man is at bare minimum concerning to an extent.
Again, how so?
It was literally dumped on him randomly at media day and he was taken aback, then since has done nothing but say and do the right thing.
What more can you ask?
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I still find it very interesting that you're ignoring all of the reports of him being a malcontent at all of his stops
Where have I ignored them? Disagreeing with your assessment he is a cancer is not dismissing. I said the holistic picture of Wood is one of a guy with some growing up to do still cause he can get in his feels at times, a chip on his shoulder(good and bad), but by and large comes in, does his job, is a good teammate and wants to win. Is currently showing a willingness to do whatever the team asks of him.
However, you seem to ONLY want to paint with the negatives while handwaving away anything that isn't. You pull up his one line of shock about being told he'll come off the bench and ignore the weeks of him embracing the role, the team, and thriving since that utterance, why?
Posted on 10/19/22 at 10:58 am to ThanosIsADemocrat
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From claiming a players peak is 22 years old, to now this. I love how retarded you are.
I wouldn't throw stones, you tried to correct me on something that you were completely wrong about
Posted on 10/19/22 at 11:02 am to Epic Cajun
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Shams Charania
@ShamsCharania
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Bulls All-Star Zach LaVine (left knee management) will miss tonight’s opener vs. Heat.
Posted on 10/19/22 at 11:04 am to Fun Bunch
My best friend is a lifelong Bulls fan and having a meltdown over Bulls players and knees right now via text.
Rest management on game #1 is very odd, gotta wonder if that'll linger.
Rest management on game #1 is very odd, gotta wonder if that'll linger.
Posted on 10/19/22 at 11:18 am to Bronc
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However, you seem to ONLY want to paint with the negatives while handwaving away anything that isn't.
I'm doing that because...
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You pull up his one line of shock about being told he'll come off the bench and ignore the weeks of him embracing the role, the team, and thriving since that utterance, why?
It's weeks of evidence over years, YEARS, of negative evidence.
If someone as a drug abuser of 6 years is sober for 6 months we don't just act like they'll be fine right? That'd be ignorant.
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What more can you ask?
More. Literally more evidence over time is going to be needed to say "hey yall, Chris wood is a solid core player that has his worst days behind him.
Posted on 10/19/22 at 11:37 am to Bronc
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It's a solid blue collar team that fits well for a guy like Luka that has such huge gravitational pull and needs the ball in his hands
It's a team with an identity. They play defense at a really high level. They are stocked with defenders at every position. Doncic doesn't have to worry about it and can just snowbird and run the show. I don't know if they built this way intentionally, but it's what they are and Kidd thrives on coaching that. They are going to grind a ton of wins off of that.
TBF, Wood does not fit that model and might take some time to embrace that type of team. He has a live body though and has the ability to be a good defender, plus what he can contribute on the offensive side. I think he will be fine and fit in eventually. But their season isn't dependent on it..
Posted on 10/19/22 at 11:42 am to whatiknowsofar
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It's weeks of evidence over years, YEARS, of negative evidence.
Again, its not though. You focus ONLY on the blow up with Silas that was one game within a week of frustration, then ignore 40 games where he played at the peak of his abilities in the league so far, did everything asked.
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If someone as a drug abuser of 6 years is sober for 6 months we don't just act like they'll be fine right? That'd be ignorant.
No, yours is the equivalent of a guy that infrequently has a bad night at the club and misses a Monday, says something stupid to the boss in a meeting once or twice a year, but the rest of the year is showing up to work, doing everything asked, showing sustained growth, liked by his fellow employees and coaches.
Like sure, no one would call him the perfect employee, but that's not the equivalent of some unhinged drug addict fricking every one around him's life up lol.
This post was edited on 10/19/22 at 11:46 am
Posted on 10/19/22 at 11:50 am to Bronc
Bronc has good takes but is irrationally supportive of a shite head like Wood.
Posted on 10/19/22 at 11:53 am to ghost2most
More like some on this board go to weird extremes with Wood for whatever reason(I think stemming from the arguments years ago when we cut him and people either vehemently defended or questioned it) and I dont think the evidence supports such negative extremes.
This post was edited on 10/19/22 at 11:54 am
Posted on 10/19/22 at 11:55 am to Bronc
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You focus ONLY on the blow up with Silas that was one game within a week of frustration
Are you forgetting him flashing out for the pels and them still not wanting anything to do with him because of his attitude? That came from multiple insiders.
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