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Final Lakers offer to Pels

Posted on 2/5/19 at 1:59 pm
Posted by longhorn22
Nicholls St. Fan
Member since Jan 2007
42300 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 1:59 pm
How do you not accept this?


Lakers final offer included

Lonzo
Ingram
Kuz
Hart
Zubac
KCP
2 first rounders

For

AD
Solomon Hill( his horrific contract)
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
33106 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 1:59 pm to
Because it’s trash? Lottery picks are what we need not trash players.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22436 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 2:00 pm to
quote:

Lonzo
Ingram
Kuz
Hart
Zubac
KCP
2 first rounders



Thats just a bad NBA team.
Posted by NOSA
Member since Jan 2004
9626 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 2:01 pm to
quote:

How do you not accept this?


Because one good thing is better than 10 crappy things.

Lakers have been "accumulating assets" but couldn't achieve a winning record until Lebron came and have been unable to flip any of them for a good player thus far.
This post was edited on 2/5/19 at 2:03 pm
Posted by Hazelnut
Member since May 2011
16433 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 2:01 pm to
The two first rounders would be at the end of the first round.

The players as a whole are meh. That's why. We can still do better this summer
Posted by bigpapamac
Mobile, AL
Member since Oct 2007
22378 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 2:02 pm to
quote:

2 first rounders


Those would be worthless, assuming the Lakers are as good as people think they'd be with Lebron and AD. The picks the Celtics control are far better.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95747 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 2:02 pm to
Turn Lonzo and some of those players / picks into Beal and we’ll talk.

And Magic needs to do the legwork on doing so since he is the one who is so hot for this deal.
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
48940 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 2:02 pm to
That is no way makes us better than we are today or in the future
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 2:02 pm to
Posted by WB504
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
5874 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 2:02 pm to
So we can be the 10th seed in the West for the foreseeable future...yeah sign me the frick up
Posted by partywiththelombardi
Member since May 2012
11589 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 2:02 pm to
Because even with Lebron James that team was hovering around 8th in the West

We need picks back that extend beyond Lebrons career.

Better offer 4 firsts today or tomorrow Pels could be asking for 6.
Posted by DeionDeion
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2010
6110 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 2:03 pm to
10 dimes don't equal a dollar in the NBA

you trade all-nba talent for quality players or potential. you don't trade a top 3 player for a bunch of tier 4 guys
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115958 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

How do you not accept this?

By saying "no"
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115958 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 2:05 pm to
You have a Ferrari, I'm going to give you 7 Hyundai's.

We don't want Hyundai's.

BUT THERE'S SEVEN OF THEM.
Posted by LSU_30A
Member since Jan 2019
2921 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 2:06 pm to
Because it’s a bunch of average players. You are just enamored with the quantity in the deal but there is very little quality. Tatum and 4 first round picks is a better deal.
Posted by burdman
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
20686 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 2:07 pm to
My question would be if it's so easy to turn Ball/Ingram into something better, why haven't the Lakers already done that.

Basically you'd get one decent piece long term (Kuz) and 2 shitty picks.

It won't be hard for the Pels to get another offer at least this good from someone else in the summer.

KCP/Zubac/Hart wouldn't even be on the team next year.
Posted by 1ranter1
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
10396 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 2:07 pm to
quote:

Thats just a bad NBA team.


This.

You basically end up as Lakers team that finished 11th in the West last season plus two late first round picks.

Let the Knicks tank and get a Zion, DSJ, Knox + package.
Posted by longhorn22
Nicholls St. Fan
Member since Jan 2007
42300 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 2:09 pm to
I really think the Pels are holding out for a guy they can get that’s in his 25-30 year range...established already and can throw in there as a fill in piece.

I don’t see the pels wanting to rebuild from scratch and go young. I just don’t see it...
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32506 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 2:10 pm to
quote:

Lonzo

Nah
quote:

Ingram

Nah
quote:

Kuz

Not bad
quote:

Hart

Not bad
quote:

Zubac

Eh
quote:

KCP

Nah
quote:

2 first rounders (late)

Nah
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
12723 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 2:10 pm to
quote:

Solomon Hill( his horrific contract)


1) Eating this contract does nothing for the Pels.

2) Those two picks are pretty much worthless. I outlined why the Pels care about the 2023 and 2025 picks and the seconds.

3) Every single one of those Lakers assets comes with baggage, and THAT'S the part that Lakers fans don't quite understand. Ball doesn't want to be here. Kuzma has a scary hip injury. Ingram is due to get paid, and the Pels would likely have to max a guy who isn't worth a max.

It is more than just the sum of the parts on paper. Having a player like Tatum making the money of a player like Ingram is a big difference for any team, for instance. One guy is possibly a bargain at his price. The other guy is overpaid at his price.
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