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Everyone is healthy. What's the excuse now?

Posted on 1/12/19 at 9:42 pm
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 9:42 pm
Everyone kept saying wait until Elfrid and Mirotic came back. They're back.
Posted by Stiles
Member since Sep 2017
3404 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 9:47 pm to
Irrational optimism?
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 9:56 pm to
People assume that when X and Y return, they will add value and A, B, C will stay the same. But that rarely happens. What I mean by that is they thought Payton and Mirotic would add value but they never considered that others would bring less value.

Moore has been beyond awful lately. He was 15 ppg, 53% from the field, 48% from three in the first two months. Lately, he has been terrible and he doesn't add defense nor does he do anything else in the box score.

This is a team that is gonna play close games against everyone. And it will come down to 1 or 2 plays. In this game, KAT hits a big three while Pels missed some WIDE OPEN ones earlier in the 4th that could have pushed the lead to 6 or higher. Frazier comes in for 4 minutes and is god awful.

Its just little stretches here or there, a single play, maybe two. And they are going against the Pels far more than in their favor this year. But if Moore would have fell off 30% instead of 75%, they'd be racking up wins.
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
12723 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 10:09 pm to
They lost a game they shouldn’t have even have really been competitive in with the way they were turning the ball over, shooting the 3, and getting buttfricked by the refs/Gentry. It’ll happen.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
14310 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 10:11 pm to
Yeah, we shot 20% from 3, if we shoot our usual 33-35%, we win this game..

IMO if Payton were on the floor instead of Moore down the stretch, we win this game
Posted by Sharp85
Member since Jan 2019
846 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 10:12 pm to
They lost to a team that's 15-7 at home. Not a real shocker.
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 10:13 pm to
Pels now have the same point differential as the Blazers.

Its crazy, but something as small as having Satoransky instead of Frazier this year, and they are fighting for the 3 seed right now.
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
28725 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 10:16 pm to
Its the same problem its always been. They need to Fire Gentry.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
14310 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 10:17 pm to
Oh I'd love to get Sato.. I say make a trade right now for Porter and Sato, and go to the postseason..

One thing is clear, we have to make a move soon at the PG spot, otherwise we going to have to start playing Payton 38 mins a game
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 10:22 pm to
Its too late now. By the time you get the guys in and acclimated, the team will be something like 22-27. From there, you gotta go 24-9 to make the playoffs. That aint happening.
Posted by Tigerbiscuits
Mid-City
Member since Nov 2011
988 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 10:24 pm to
The excuse is that injuries caused early season struggles that now magnify results that shouldn't shock anyone. In other words, the margin of error has become so small you see an 82 game season as a 16 game and melt when a few breaks don't go your way.
Posted by Sharp85
Member since Jan 2019
846 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 10:25 pm to
I would be willing to bet if most teams had Tim Frazier seeing 20-30 minutes a night due to bad luck they would be below .500 also. Not a knock on the kid glad hes on the team but Id prefer him seeing less than 10 minutes a game.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
14310 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 10:28 pm to
Frazier shouldnt be seeing any minutes, he should be a hype man on the bench...

He has times hes good, but the bad far outweighs the good with him
Posted by BayouFann
CenLa
Member since Jun 2012
6868 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 10:28 pm to
No perimeter forward!!
Posted by FMtTXtiger
Member since Oct 2018
3736 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 10:28 pm to
yeah, time to talk to AD and see what he thinks, then trade him to Chicago for their first Carter and L Markenen.




Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
11909 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 10:56 pm to
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Its too late now. By the time you get the guys in and acclimated, the team will be something like 22-27. From there, you gotta go 24-9 to make the playoffs. That aint happening.


Should they just hold onto the picks at this point (unless by some miracle, the Wizards are willing to part with Beal)?
Posted by Machine
Earth
Member since May 2011
6001 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 9:03 am to
Right? I can’t believe they didn’t get back to their form immediately after guys returned from injury.

GTFOH
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 9:25 am to
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Its crazy, but something as small as having Satoransky instead of Frazier this year, and they are fighting for the 3 seed right now.




vintage Pels:

trade for PG of the future, lock him up to near max deal, and then realize he isn't a PG

have a season that may ultimately decide if the franchise stays in the city boil down to a player like Elfrid Payton and not having a backup roughly of Payton's quality
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 1:23 pm to
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Right? I can’t believe they didn’t get back to their form immediately after guys returned from injury.


Elfrid is back to his mediocre form from Orlando and PHX.
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 1:41 pm to
He is always going to be mediocre. But when your other option (Frazier) is pure trash, mediocre is a massive upgrade. Rondo is mediocre nowadays but looked like a stud at times in this system. Gotta wonder what Pels would look like if they put a good PG in that role.
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