re: Early Trade Speculation...

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Idk why everyone is so obsessed with just getting Cooper. It’s unlikely to happen. But this is one of the deepest drafts in a while and you’re still going to get someone who probably would’ve been the first pick last year to add to an ok roster. It’s been a rough season, I think it’s embarrassing they haven’t fired Willie, but this board is way too negative about things. Harper, Bailey, Tre Johnson, etc could all easily end up being franchise pieces.

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It's deep similarly to the 2019 draft.

Zion was a generational talent, just like Flagg.
Morant, Barrett, Garland, Hunter were all talented as well you still want that #1 guy. Let's say in the best case we land 1 and trade for 4. Wouldn't you feel better about moving zion because you have Flagg rather than say harper? Because I sure would.

Sabonis isn't a star. He would be a very good #3 option on a championship team, but you aren't competing at a high level if he is your #1 or #2 option.

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If Sabonis goes to GSW he is #2 and Jimmy is #3.

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Making Jimmy the #3 likely wouldn’t end well if he decides he’s fed up.

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Making Jimmy the #3 likely wouldn’t end well if he decides he’s fed up.

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Sucks for Jimmy. Maybe he should do better than a 18/5/5 average the last 3 seasons. That's good to average #3 stats at worst and terrible #2 stats at best. That's essentially BI with less offense.

And Jimmy wasn't even the #1 on his own team Bam was... And Sabonis is arguably better or equal to Bam rounding out the top (4) Centers behind Wemby/ Jokic

I had proposed a trade at the deadline, with Zion going to the Lakers for Reaves and Hachimura, plus a future 1st. I just saw a site propose the same deal. If the Lakers flame out 1st or 2nd round, they are going to want to take a huge swing. Pairing Zion with Luka is the kind of big deal they would want.

If we got Flagg and put him with two great shooters in Reaves and Murphy, that is an awesome core group. We can keep McCollum, till Murray comes back. I'd resign Payton and JRE. Look to offload Hawkins and Alvarado.

McCollum/Payton/(Murray)
Reaves/Reeves or Boston
Murphy/Jones
Flagg/Hachimura/JRE
Missi/Olynyk/Matkovic

That's a .500 team with a ton of upside next season. We would have the contracts and flexibility to adjust how we need. I just don't want to rush back Murray, Jones and Murphy coming back from pretty harsh injuries. So we need a lot of depth early to limit their minutes.

It’s really too bad that D Griff and Company decided to draft Theresa Weatherspoon’s nephew instead of actually scouting other guards in that draft

I’d love to have Maxey on the team, but he should’ve already been on the team at the low price of pick 13.

But theoretically going along with this trade idea

I’d 100% rather Maxey be our franchise guy instead of Zion

You lose about 10% talent and upside, but would gain exponentially in availability, character, charisma, and overall longevity. Let’s be honest, Z has maybe 2-3 years left of peak/prime basketball if he can stay healthy. Maxey has about 8 years left of peak and a much more varied and nuanced offensive game that actually fits the modern math competition nba.

I would too. Realistically, this deal would have a much better chance if Pels land the 2nd overall pick so that Philly gets Dylan Harper, Cam Johnson and two additional first rounders for Maxey and even then I think they only do it if Maxey demands a trade.

On the Nets side, they'd have to view Z as a cornerstone guy, a still young player with top-10 super star potential in a new environment. All of which could be true if Zion's commitment this year to being in condition wasn't a one-off mirage. Would help if Bill Duffy can work same kind of magic for Z that he did for Luka.

For Pels, landing a guy like Maxey while staying in the top 10 of this year's draft is pretty close to the best case scenario on a Zion exit. It could be, in my scenario, that the Brooklyn pick would have to be routed to Philly as well to pry Maxey loose and trump other offers, so that the 76ers wound up with our pick, their own pick and Brooklyn's pick, three top 10 selections in a great draft, to turbo charge their rebuild around Embiid. That's a lot of rooks, but this is the year to have them. They could also re-route one or two of those top-10 selections in a deal for another veteran star or to unload that terrible Paul George contract.

If Pels could pair Maxey with Herb that's a pretty strong, balanced, back court duo to go with Trey and a top-10 rookie at the other forward spot like Queen or Murray-Boyles and the young centers. I could live with that and working with CJ and DeJounte as other value pieces to garner additional assets.

Another simpler scenario, of course, is for Pels to keep the pick and just roll with a Harper or Ace Bailey or Edgecombe themselves and see what else they could pick up in a general auction of Zion's contract and other assets.

We would be receiving picks in any of your scenarios, we are not trading Zion + picks for anyone aside from Giannis, Jokic or Luka

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On the other end why the frick would we trade Zion and picks for a 31 y/o Giannis? Crazy

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Why the frick would Giannis want to go anywhere that isn’t a contender?

Milwaukee may be boxed in on what they can do but they did what they could to try and keep the team competitive.