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re: Dyson vs Herb season long thread

Posted on 12/15/25 at 11:00 pm to
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 12/15/25 at 11:00 pm to
No bump in a long time.

Nice game by DD the other night,

27 points, 13-19, 10 rebounds, 4 assists, 2 blocks and a steal. Led all scorers in a win.

Last ten games averaging

15.7 pts 7.2 Rebs 5.7 assists 1.7 steals over 50% shooting…
All with elite level defense..

Herbs last ten games for comparison

8.9pts 3.6 Rebs 2.2 assists 1.4 steals on 34.8% shooting

Dyson is doubling him up on most stats at this point.
This post was edited on 12/16/25 at 8:11 am
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
38246 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 11:23 pm to
Please keep your stupid shite on Saints talk..
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
13856 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 8:03 am to
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Please keep your stupid shite on Saints talk..


You should learn how to read. I’m just helping the OP out with his Season long thread that has blown up spectacularly in his face.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
25915 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 8:08 am to
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that has blown up spectacularly in his face.


Dyson is shooting worse than last year and still cant make fts. I thought he was only going to get better?
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
13856 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 8:11 am to
Have you seen what Herb is shooting this year?
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11219 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 8:13 am to
If/when Jones is traded will this thread be retired?
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
13856 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 8:14 am to
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I thought he was only going to get better?


He’s doubling up Herbs numbers but you don’t think he’s better lol?
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
13856 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 8:17 am to
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If/when Jones is traded will this thread be retired


It can be retired right now when Whatidontknowsofar waves the white flag and admits defeat.

This post was edited on 12/16/25 at 8:20 am
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288479 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 8:36 am to
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Dyson is shooting worse than last year and still cant make fts. I thought he was only going to get better?


Herb is 27 and still can’t shoot. So what?
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
31016 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 8:39 am to
Herb is done. He was never the most talented but he gave you hustle and tenacity. Now he just doesn’t give a shite, so you lose the hustle and tenacity and you are left with a less than talented NBA player. Not sure if it’s an injury or climate but he’s been bad this year.
Posted by Dinky Mulberry
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 12/16/25 at 9:39 am to
I luv both players...they are fairly close on defense...DD is better rebounder & better at finishing around basket...Herb is better 3-pt shooter & free throw shooter. Neither should shoot from beyond 8' unless it is a 3-pt shot.

If you watch DD...you realize his outside shooting has become seriously HORRIBLE...confidence is totally shot. He's shooting 15.3% from 3 on 7-44...it's really hard to shoot that poorly on uncontested 3s...they have basically stopped guarding him at the 3-pt line & many teams have started guarding him with their "5", who just lingers in the paint & clogs things up inside. His shot is flat out "broken"...and I'm not sure if it's physical or mental...this situation will only get worse if he doesn't fix it...somehow.

ANY serious contender would prefer to add Herb to their roster rather than DD. Not really close...at this time. But...things can always change...we'll see.

Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
25915 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:30 am to
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He’s doubling up Herbs numbers but you don’t think he’s better lol?


Lol no he isnt. Hes the primary pg on the Hawks so hes going to get more assists but hes not even scoring better than one of herbs worst seasons.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
13856 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 1:19 pm to
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Hes the primary pg on the Hawks so hes going to get more assists but hes not even scoring better than one of herbs worst seasons.


Something else the board said DD wasn’t capable of. And yes his assists and rebounding are double Herbs and he’s scoring more this year and last. But ok.
This post was edited on 12/16/25 at 1:20 pm
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
25915 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 2:29 pm to
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are double Herbs and he’s scoring more this year and last. But ok.


He is scoring less than last year. Or are you trying to compare dyson outscoring herb last year when he played 12 whole games with a torn labrum?

Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
13856 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 6:29 pm to
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He is scoring less than last year. Or are you trying to compare dyson outscoring herb last year when he played 12 whole games with a torn labrum?


He is scoring less than last year but it’s still more than any year Herb has had. Herbs numbers last year were on par with his career. He’s had one outlier year where he shot over 40% on threes, but all of the other years are low 30s%.

And that’s mostly from the beginning of the year. I guess it took time to adjust to an entirely different role in the offense.
This post was edited on 12/16/25 at 6:31 pm
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
25915 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 9:56 pm to
Herb just had more steals tonight than Dyson had in his last 5 games combined, locked down Kevin Durant in the 2nd half, and ignited the Pels comeback.
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