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re: Dyson vs Herb season long thread

Posted on 3/17/26 at 9:00 am to
Posted by Macintosh
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Member since Sep 2011
56525 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 9:00 am to
Yeah Jalen Johnson has potential to be a #1 on a good team. Dude is a star
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
14978 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 9:17 am to
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But why do we have to do the game to game comparison? What’s done is done.


The thread title says season long. I didn’t start the thread, I’m merely a contributor.

I didn’t do game by game, this was a last ten game compilation. I didn’t even put Herbs last ten games. But I’m sure DD has him beat in every metric but 3pt%.
This post was edited on 3/17/26 at 9:20 am
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 3/17/26 at 9:33 am to
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Dyson last 9 games of win streak(missed a game due to injury)

11.6 pts
8.1 Rebs
6.3 assists
2.4 steals
0.6 blocks
59.3 fg%
17.3 +\-


Don't forget the most important stat (and the.12% 3pt% )... Four years, 100 million dollars. He was not worth that for the Pels.
Posted by Demps
Member since Oct 2025
1132 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 10:04 am to
I’ll eat crow. I think it was a good trade. Murray looks 110% now from injury. Although he was ill last night he looks dedicated to the team again. Something we did not see last season before injury. I’ll take Murray over Daniels.
Posted by Dinky Mulberry
Member since Aug 2021
2355 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 11:26 am to
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Don't forget the most important stat (and the.12% 3pt% )... Four years, 100 million dollars. He was not worth that for the Pels.


DD has 2 HUGE problems.

1. He has totally lost confidence in his outside shot which is understandable considering his 12% 3-pt numbers for the season.

2. And EVEN worse...he is basically refusing to shoot 3-pt shots. He actually tries to NOT be caught in a position where he is wide open at the 3-pt line. THIS IS NOT GOOD...

One thing about Herb...he actually goes out of his way to throw up 3-pt shots...which should eventually lead to his return to the norm...which for him, is somewhere around 35/36%.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
14978 posts
Posted on 3/22/26 at 11:44 am to
After a clunker by the team last game, beat the warriors to win 12 of last 13.

Dyson with a season high
28 pts on 70.6%, 40% on 3
7 Rebs
6 assists
4 steals
+35 (highest on team)

Not bad for a guy the board said would never be a rotational guy on a playoff team or out the league completely…
This post was edited on 3/22/26 at 11:47 am
Posted by Split2874
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Posted on 3/22/26 at 11:53 am to
But can he do it again?
Posted by Dinky Mulberry
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 3/22/26 at 2:04 pm to
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After a clunker by the team last game, beat the warriors to win 12 of last 13.

Dyson with a season high
28 pts on 70.6%, 40% on 3
7 Rebs
6 assists
4 steals
+35 (highest on team)

Not bad for a guy the board said would never be a rotational guy on a playoff team or out the league completely…


Great to see DD hit a coupla 3s...even GREATER...to see him take 5 of them during the game. Maybe this is the turning point for his outside shooting. Key is to just keep shooting them...whether you shoot a solid % or not. Hard to be in the lineup down the stretch in "serious" games...if you won't take the shot. I'm still optimistic...he'll come around.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Member since Nov 2010
27428 posts
Posted on 3/22/26 at 5:27 pm to
[quote]Not bad for a guy the board said would never be a rotational guy on a playoff team or out the league completely…[/quote


Again, just making up narratives
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 3/22/26 at 7:42 pm to
I’ve linked the DD trade thread many times, and it’s followed by silence every time…
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
27428 posts
Posted on 3/22/26 at 7:45 pm to
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and it’s followed by silence every time…


Again, it has not been. But if you need a refresher link it again.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
14978 posts
Posted on 3/22/26 at 8:49 pm to
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Again, just making up narratives

https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/new-orleans-pelicans/murray-to-pels-is-officially-official/113928402/

Here’s a quick summary….
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Win now. Dyson is not good, y’all are insane
33 upvotes 1 downvote

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I think Dyson is going to take longer than most to be a guy

All upvotes, zero downvotes

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Dyson’s offense may never be good enough to make him a viable player
87 upvotes zero downvotes

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This board overrates Dyson so much
73 upvotes zero doenvotes

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You guys are idiots if you think we are on the wrong side of this move
73 upvotes zero downvotes

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No Dyson means more Hawk too......
20 upvotes zero downvotes with this gem from whatiknowsofar who got his wish this season

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I don’t think we got fleeced at all. Dyson will never be anything,
9 upvotes one downvote

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Wow Griff shoukd be charged for theft. Thats freaking ridiculous.
All upvotes zero downvotes

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while a very good defender, was so non-existent offensively that he couldn't be seriously considered to be in the playoff rotation.

29 upvotes, zero downvotes

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Hawks coveted Herb for Murray. We kept Herb. This is a win

49 upvotes zero downvotes

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My issue is Dyson has the value of a late 1st round pick


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Win now. Dyson is not good, y’all are insane

33 upvotes one downvote, prob from me

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I think Dyson is going to take longer than most to be a guy

17 upvotes zero downvotes

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Dyson will never be anything

8 upvotes 1 downvote

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We can live with Dyson going out, honestly we needed it because now Hawk can get more run in the second unit

Jesus lmao
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Hawk is wayyyyyy more important to this current team. Dyson needs a lot more development to even become a serviceable offensive player. We’re on the clock to have a contending team and you’d be hard pressed justifying Dyson getting significant minutes in playoff games

This poster didn’t like my take that Hawk shoulda been shipped out instead of Dyson. He agreed with you that Hawk was a better player. All upvotes zero downvotes.

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Bro landed Murray giving up scrubs and crap picks, he COOKED

8 upvotes 1 downvote

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Hawks: how about Herb? Pels: GO frick yourself

Another quote from you, all upvotes zero downvotes
This post was edited on 3/22/26 at 8:54 pm
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
27428 posts
Posted on 3/22/26 at 9:01 pm to
All of those quotes yet none of them saying he'll be out the league

None of them saying he wont be a rotational player in the playoffs.

Pretty big L for you to do all that work.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
14978 posts
Posted on 3/22/26 at 10:18 pm to
Different thread. Do you ever get tired of taking Ls from me? I’m just wondering?
https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/new-orleans-pelicans/dyson-daniels/113936366/


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He’s not a viable NBA player but somehow viewed as an asset in the trade market. Props to pelicans for moving him before it was obvious to the league.

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If Dyson doesn’t develop a jump shot or some kind of offense to his game he will be playing in Australia in a couple years

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He has a higher chance of going home and playing in the Australian Basketball League


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Pretty big L for you to do all that work.


Lol. A pretty big L would be your takes in that thread. Hawk over DD lol. Guess you wised up and gave up on that hot take at least.

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Above average on defense. But he is a guard that can’t dribble (create) or shoot. Gotta be able to do one of those as a guard in the nba.

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NO TEAM would consider today trading a future first for Dyson . Now that is laughable.

At least you not as dumb as this idiot. This aged well, as he was the top wing defender in the league last year.
This post was edited on 3/22/26 at 11:01 pm
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
27428 posts
Posted on 3/22/26 at 10:22 pm to
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Lol. A pretty big L


Til 3 posters=the board. Funny how you ignore all the other posters wishing him well and thinking he'll be a good player.

Oh wait. I did. In my farewell Dyson thread.

These threads look worse and worse when you cherry pick without context.

As usual
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
14978 posts
Posted on 3/22/26 at 10:26 pm to
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As usual


So first I made it up, then post receipts, then it’s only a few posters, but ignore the other 20 quotes before those, with the downvote/upvote counter, including your hot takes. And there’s many more I didn’t include for context. And now it’s I wished DD well so it doesn’t count.

Pretty hilarious the mental gymnastics you come up with. Just eat the L dude. You should be use to it by now. I can tell you definitely voted Kamala.
This post was edited on 3/22/26 at 10:32 pm
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
27428 posts
Posted on 3/22/26 at 10:32 pm to
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first I made it up


The narrative that the board said he'd be out of the league. Yes.

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then it’s only a few posters


Which /=/ "the board"

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but ignore the other 20 quotes before those, including your hot takes


All which have nothing to do with saying he be out of the league.

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And there’s many more I didn’t include for context.


Because they don't support the false narrative you've conjured up.

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Pretty hilarious the mental gymnastics you come up with. Just eat the L dude. You should be use to it by now


Dyson is playing some of the best ball of his career and you can't even gloat properly. You still have to resort to made up bullshite. It's sad at this point.

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can tell you definitely voted Kamala.


Politics will not be tolerated on this board. Take that shite elsewhere.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
14978 posts
Posted on 3/22/26 at 10:44 pm to
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Because they don't support the false narrative you've conjured up.


I’m not gloating lol. You saying I made it up is the funny part when I post quotes saying Dyson will never be anything or that he sucks and is a scrub and its the ‘board doesn’t agree with your false narrative’ but it has 80 upvotes and zero downvotes. I wouldn’t say the board if it was close to 50/50. But it wasnt, it was 100% on those hot takes. So yes it’s the boards view. That dog don’t hunt.

It’s embarrassing the mental gymnastics you try and post. I’ll give you kudos tho for trying to come back and attempting, albeit poorly, to try and save face on a thread that has completely blown up on you.

This post was edited on 3/22/26 at 11:11 pm
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
27428 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 6:47 am to
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You saying I made it up is the funny part when I post quotes saying Dyson will never be anything or that he sucks and is a scrub and its the ‘board doesn’t agree with your false narrative’ but it has 80 upvotes and zero downvotes. I wouldn’t say the board if it was close to 50/50. But it wasnt, it was 100% on those hot takes. So yes it’s the boards view. That dog don’t hunt.


The other thread you posted had everyone down voting the out of the league comments. Theres no need to lie. You lost this argument. As usual. Just let it go man. Dyson is playing some great ball after being average at best for most of the year. Enjoy that and pray he keeps it up
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
14978 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 8:52 am to
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Theres no need to lie. You lost this argument. As usual


I posted comments that said other people thought he’d be closer to being out of the league than becoming a starter. I also said the board thought he’d never be a rotational piece on a playoff team that you also said wasn’t true.
But what do you think that means when he’s called a scrub and will never turn into anything and has a 100% upvotes? You think that means a starter on a playoff team or a 11th end of the bench guy?

I lost the argument as usual? Like your hot take that Hawk is better than Dyson lol?
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None of them saying he wont be a rotational player in the playoffs.

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Sometime you just are who you are. Dyson is a very limited offensively- defensive player that doesnt belong on an NBA backcourt in the playoffs.

These are also your quotes, so I guess I just make shite up right? YOU literally just said he shouldn’t be on the court in the playoffs lol.

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You went all in on him being the better player than Herb eventually. I'm here to point out that he's not and will never be.


This is from this very thread, also not looking very good.
This post was edited on 3/23/26 at 9:50 am
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