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re: Davis already dictating teams. Doesn't want to go to Boston

Posted on 1/29/19 at 2:24 pm to
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 2:24 pm to
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When it becomes clear that the Pelicans are not interested in trading him to the Lakers, they will change course and open it up to 3-4 realistic teams, the Celtics being one of them.




What is their motive to do that?

Better yet, what are the other teams' motives to do that knowing that in 1 year he wants to bolt for LAL?

That is why when this drags out into the summer, the focus is only going to get more narrow towards LAL. Bunchie, the writing on the wall points to everything being about LAL.


Trade him before Feb 7th this year, and yea, i can get behind him being more open to playing for another team for a year & a half. The team that buys him gets 2 playoff runs with him, and extra time to sell him on staying.

You wait until the summer and teams will be much more hesitant to give away their franchise to get him when they know he wants to play in LAL.
Posted by hg
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 2:25 pm to
It’s about making the Pels better, AD. We don’t give a frick where you want to go.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 2:25 pm to
Bunchie, trust me, i want you to be right and i want this to be seamless and i want the Pels to get a great haul. I just have a feeling the more it drags out the more we are going to be disappointed with our options
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 2:27 pm to
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Bunchie, trust me, i want you to be right and i want this to be seamless and i want the Pels to get a great haul. I just have a feeling the more it drags out the more we are going to be disappointed with our options


That would not surprise me. It happened like that with CP3 and Baron Davis.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 2:27 pm to
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You wait until the summer and teams will be much more hesitant to give away their franchise to get him when they know he wants to play in LAL.


exactly


this place is going to sour on the "good on you AD" narrative very soon
Posted by WB504
New Orleans
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 2:29 pm to
Paul George and his camp was hellbent on the Lakers and look how that turned out.

Ainge has been stock piling assets for years waiting for this opportunity. I could be wrong but I don’t see him missing out on AD over Tatum.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 2:32 pm to
If AD joins the knicks, you've got to believe that the Knicks can draw a superstar to pair with him. Durant/Irving/Klay etc.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 2:33 pm to
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What is their motive to do that?


to not be on the Pelicans for another year.
quote:

Better yet, what are the other teams' motives to do that knowing that in 1 year he wants to bolt for LAL?



Well if he opens it up to other teams, he would presumably NOT be bolting to LAL in a year, just like PG and I think Kawhi.

quote:

That is why when this drags out into the summer


We want it to drag out into the summer.

I think you are in Louisiana Sports Pessimism mode and not looking at this totally objectively and given the history of trades in this league.

Its only natural to feel pessimistic about this franchise. But I think they will get this right.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 2:35 pm to
Let's see, go to Boston with a young coach, storied history, 28 year old Kyrie (I think) and a deep team, or go to LA and be a bitch for a 36 year old broken down Lebron with no depth and getting all the blame when you lose??

I know which one he would rather..

Dont believe all the nonsense you are seeing, other sources are saying AD just wants a big market where he can compete for a championship...

LAL, LAC, Boston, NYK, GS are the teams he would want to be on IMO
Posted by DeionDeion
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Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 2:36 pm to
I think AD will be one of if not the first big domino to fall this summer. And when it does, it will have ripple effect as to what Kyrie, KD, Klay Thompson, Kawhi, Butler, etc do.

This helps the Pelicans because LAL, BOS, & NYK know that landing AD sets you up to land another big fish. So Ainge along with every other GM won't hold back. This is the time to use all of your assets.
This post was edited on 1/29/19 at 2:39 pm
Posted by Hammond Tiger Fan
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 2:37 pm to
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If you want to go to LA, serve out your contract then sign with them. You can't have it both ways.


I believe he will do that if given that option. However, that's not in the Pels best interest for that scenario to play out though.

Pels should shut down AD for the year, not risk injury, and create the bidding war this summer.
This post was edited on 1/29/19 at 2:39 pm
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130268 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 2:40 pm to
I think our boy LE is just falling for the Media Machine regarding the Lakers.

They have been connected to every big trade and FA for the past decade and they get none of them except a 35 year old Lebron James. Let Rich Paul and Lebron talk their shite.

Connecting players to the Lakers gets ratings for the media, I SERIOUSLY doubt it is reality that he is hellbent on LAL.

Davis will be fine playing on a contender.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 2:48 pm to
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I think AD will be one of if not the first big domino to fall this summer. And when it does, it will have ripple effect as to what Kyrie, KD, Klay Thompson, Kawhi, Butler, etc do. This helps the Pelicans because LAL, BOS, & NYK know that landing AD sets you up to land another big fish. So Ainge along with every other GM won't hold back. This is the time to use all of your assets.


This. The Pelicans would be idiots to deal AD before Celtics were able to make their pitch especially since Ainge has made it clear they are very interested in AD. Celtics seem to have the best combo of young players and draft picks to offer, and the Pels have no reason to rush to trade.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 2:49 pm to
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I think you are in Louisiana Sports Pessimism mode and not looking at this totally objectively and given the history of trades in this league.




dude i am almost always objective about this stuff. You never are.

I haven't even read the media or watched any TV over this. It's simple logic, negotiating 101. If they are saying he wants to play in LAL, he wants to play in LA. That isn't a media machine. That severely limits the Pelicans options. What planet are you on bunch?


and what history of trades are you talking about?

Paul George and Kawahi? The Pelicans lose if they take a deal similar to the return either team got for those guys.

the shite deal we got for Baron Davis back in the day?

The Chris Paul trade?
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
122859 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 2:51 pm to
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to not be on the Pelicans for another year.


what if he just wants to go to los angeles? it's not like he's THAT much better off going to some other barely mediocre team.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130268 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 2:51 pm to
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You never are


Which is funny because I get accused in real life by everyone that loves me of being "too objective".

Personally, I don't see you as objective. I see you as picking whatever the prevailing wisdom is among fans and arguing the opposite, almost always. That's my personal opinion though. I usually look and see what everyone here thinks and then wait for the Lester Earl Opposite Opinion (TM) to inevitably come, and it usually does.
This post was edited on 1/29/19 at 2:54 pm
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 2:51 pm to
If anything Ainge will likely be completely willing to beat any offer LA can come up with that doesn't include the Lakers 1st rounder. Even if it's only a 1 year guarantee.

If LA must include a first to be considered, which I believe they would, then there is absolutely 0 incentive to trade him prior to the summer.
Posted by Loaner1231
Member since Jan 2016
3903 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 2:51 pm to
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The Chris Paul trade?


Hey now... it’s not every day you get to trade for a cornerstone.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290875 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 2:51 pm to
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Let's see, go to Boston with a young coach, storied history, 28 year old Kyrie (I think) and a deep team, or go to LA and be a bitch for a 36 year old broken down Lebron with no depth and getting all the blame when you lose??

I know which one he would rather..

Dont believe all the nonsense you are seeing, other sources are saying AD just wants a big market where he can compete for a championship...




oh lord you seem to really believe this
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
122859 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 2:52 pm to
also have to consider that if you're boston/whoever and this guy is basically saying L.A or bust, you are possibly trading away key pieces for a malcontent

why would anyone do that?
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