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re: Damian Lillard
Posted on 6/1/12 at 8:56 am to Fun Bunch
Posted on 6/1/12 at 8:56 am to Fun Bunch
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He was the 2nd most efficient player in the nation (behind Anthony Davis) AND he led the entire nation in turnover margin, even though he had the ball in his hands a tremendous amount
AND he played at Weber State....
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Posted on 6/1/12 at 8:58 am to chatchit42
I don't care to get him cause I'm not big on a score first point guard. I know he played for weber state and was their best scoring option but a point guard gets everybody involved and in the past with players like this they were unable to make the change. I would rather a point guard be more likely to have 10 assist 2 or fewer turnovers and 2 or more steals than he is likely to score 20
Posted on 6/1/12 at 8:59 am to chatchit42
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Besides the fact that he is NOT a good passer
False.
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his game is too much like EG's
What? No. No it isn't.
Its very complimentary to EG. The last thing this team needs is a pure distributor. Pure Distributors that can't score are good with teams that have multiple scoring options.
This team has one scoring option...EG.
Lillard can play with the ball in his hands, he can score in a variety of ways. He is lightning quick and VERY efficient. The biggest thing is that he moves well without the ball in his hands and can be an off ball scorer.
That is the perfect compliment to EG. EG needs the ball in his hands a good bit, so he needs someone to run with him that can knock down open shots, can hit on the drive and kick, can help him space the floor, and can handle the ball when EG is playing off the ball.
Lillard is essentially perfect for this team, ESPECIALLY when you're going to have defensive players at the 3 (Ariza, Aminu), 4 (AD, Ayon) and 5 (Okafor).
Posted on 6/1/12 at 8:59 am to chatchit42
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AND he played at Weber State....
So? He can only play the competition in front of him.
Posted on 6/1/12 at 9:02 am to tigertalkster
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but a point guard gets everybody involved
Very outdated philosophy.
PGs do what there teams ask the to do. It all depends on the construction of the team.
As we are constructing it, we need a scorer at 1 to roll with EG.
IF we trade Ariza, Aminu and Okafor and get scorers at 3 and 5 to compliment EG and AD, then I guess its a different story.
AND, Lillard is capable of getting everyone involved. He's a very capable passer and a very efficient player, AND he takes care of the ball, big time.
Posted on 6/1/12 at 9:04 am to Fun Bunch
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Its very complimentary to EG. The last thing this team needs is a pure distributor. Pure Distributors that can't score are good with teams that have multiple scoring options.
Yeah, we really need a better, younger Jarret Jack, and Lillard probably is the closest thing in the draft to that.
I'm still a little iffy on Lillard because he hasn't proven himself against top competition. Remember that Terrence Williams averaged a triple double in the DLeague but can't crack a rotation in the NBA. But if Lillard lives up to the hype he is exactly what we want at the guard opposite Gordon.
Posted on 6/1/12 at 9:25 am to Fun Bunch
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but a point guard gets everybody involved
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Very outdated philosophy
Well....Rondo just called and he says hi....not to mention CP
I think you're getting confused with having a PG that is balanced and one that has a shoot-first mentality. If you noticed, AD needs a PG that can set him up off pick and rolls and back door cuts. EG needs one to penetrate and kick....not penetrate and shoot every time.
I just see Mo Williams written all over this guy.
Oh, and Jack >>> Lillard.
Posted on 6/1/12 at 9:30 am to chatchit42
I'm also of the belief that Lillard would be a bad fit for this team. I agree with chatchit on this one.
Posted on 6/1/12 at 9:37 am to chatchit42
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EG needs one to penetrate and kick....not penetrate and shoot every time
Like everyone says "he is a developed passer" Just because he had to score at Weber State doesn't mean that he can't learn to be a passing guard when he needs to. Now we need him to score, but I like him because when we get a good team together he will be able to find them.
Posted on 6/1/12 at 9:48 am to aswemajor
I will say this, in the beginning I was more of a Marshall believer than a Lillard. But this belief hinged on us getting a later lottery pick when Minny was doing good. But after watching Lillard's highlights, I noticed he possesses a greater potential than Marshall....sort of like Westbrook. I will not deny Lillard's abilities.
But at the 10 spot, I feel like we need to get a scorer from the outside that will take pressure off of EG. I am sold on Austin Rivers. I feel like we would be settling with Lillard and that Jack or Gragic would be more beneficial to this team.
But at the 10 spot, I feel like we need to get a scorer from the outside that will take pressure off of EG. I am sold on Austin Rivers. I feel like we would be settling with Lillard and that Jack or Gragic would be more beneficial to this team.
Posted on 6/1/12 at 9:56 am to Puddinhead
Why would he be a bad fit? He can score and he can also move off the ball to catch and shoot which is good compliment to Gordon's ability to handle the ball. Like others have said, he doesn't turn the ball over too.
Posted on 6/1/12 at 9:58 am to hendersonshands
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Why would he be a bad fit? He can score and he can also move off the ball to catch and shoot which is good compliment to Gordon's ability to handle the ball. Like others have said, he doesn't turn the ball over too.
Exactly. I have yet to see a legit criticism of his other than his court vision is not the best for a PG and he played at Weber State. That's it. He had the best turnover ratio I think in the entire country last year.
Posted on 6/1/12 at 9:59 am to fightingtiger2335
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Satan first name and 2nd name looks like lizard
If we get him, we should incorporate this into his nickname
Posted on 6/1/12 at 10:31 am to chatchit42
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But at the 10 spot, I feel like we need to get a scorer from the outside that will take pressure off of EG. I am sold on Austin Rivers.
Austin Rivers: 36.5% from 3
Damian Lillard: 40.9% from 3
They played an almost identical amount of minutes and games.
Pts Pr Game
Rivers: 15.5
Lillard: 24.5
FG%
Rivers: 43.3
Lillard: 46.7
FT%
Rivers: 65.8
Lillard: 88.7
True Shooting Percentage (Advanced Metric)
Rivers: 53.8
Lillard: 63.5
By every metric, Lillard is a far better and more efficient shooter than Rivers, so....
And if you want to go beyond that:
Assists:
Rivers: 2
Lillard: 4
Steals:
Rivers: 0.971
Lillard: 1.469
Turnover Pct
Rivers: 16.9
Lillard: 12.3
Posted on 6/1/12 at 10:56 am to Fun Bunch
I dont think Hornet's have a shot at 10. He might go in the top 5. Wouldn't surprise me if the Kings grab him at 5. If he gets past Toronto we might have a shot
Posted on 6/1/12 at 10:58 am to Fun Bunch
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But at the 10 spot, I feel like we need to get a scorer from the outside that will take pressure off of EG. I am sold on Austin Rivers.
Can Austin Rivers play the 3? We already have enough 2s.
This post was edited on 6/1/12 at 10:59 am
Posted on 6/1/12 at 11:00 am to aswemajor
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Can Austin Rivers play the 3?
Posted on 6/1/12 at 11:01 am to GynoSandberg
ikr why do we need another 2?
Posted on 6/1/12 at 11:04 am to GynoSandberg
Gyno, have you ever seen this guy play?
I know he averaged a ton of points, but just from looking at the stat sheet his assist and % #'s leave a lot to be desired... on top of that he played in a very weak conference. I like him, but Im curious what makes him a top 5 pick?
I know he averaged a ton of points, but just from looking at the stat sheet his assist and % #'s leave a lot to be desired... on top of that he played in a very weak conference. I like him, but Im curious what makes him a top 5 pick?
Posted on 6/1/12 at 11:06 am to aswemajor
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Can Austin Rivers play the 3
frick no.
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