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re: Current Roster / roster battles
Posted on 12/2/20 at 8:48 am to brmark70816
Posted on 12/2/20 at 8:48 am to brmark70816
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His option is around 5M
That's because he was drafted so late. It has nothing to do with his market value now that he's established himself as a player. He's easily good enough that a team would pay the full MLE for him, which is $9.2, so the Pels probably need to offer him in the ball park of at least $10 per to get him to sign an extension.
They have until December 21st on extensions for both Lonzo and Hart. Lonzo will probably not agree and bet on himself, but I'm hoping they get a deal done with Hart. There's no reason not to lock him up and no reason for Hart to turn down $40+ million guaranteed.
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Posted on 12/2/20 at 8:55 am to brmark70816
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His option is around 5M and the belief was he wasn't going to get much beyond that
Son, why/how are you so consistently wrong on everything?
Posted on 12/2/20 at 8:59 am to SLafourche07
Hart is making $3.5 this season and his Qualifying Offer next season is $5.2. He will very likely sign an extension in the next 3 weeks or get a new deal next offseason, but the QO is what it is.
This post was edited on 12/2/20 at 9:00 am
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:03 am to TigerinATL
My comment is on the 2nd part of the quote.
No one thinks he’ll only get $5m.
No one thinks he’ll only get $5m.
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:05 am to SLafourche07
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No one thinks he’ll only get $5m.
Yeah, that's crazy talk.
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:53 am to brmark70816
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Its a respect thing to me and giving Hart the proper opportunities to showcase himself. Nobody on here believes that starting matters, but it matters to the players and it matters come contract time.
I understand the staring stuff with players, but not all of them care that much about it. And the reason i pointed out that he played the 5th most minutes on the team last year, was to debunk your opportunities to showcase himself excuse. He played as many minutes as Bledsoe did last year, and Tyler Herro, and more than he did in his 2 years in LA.
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But why haven't we extended him yet?
We probably will extend him, but how do you know he even wants to settle? There's going to be a lot of money flying around next offseason. It's probably not a bad idea to see if he can catch more on the open market. We could give him a 4/50 right now, and maybe he gets 4/60 in the offseason, or maybe he's back to 4/50. If you were in his position, you'd probably not sign an extension. Unless he's worried about getting hurt, the best decision for him is to hit the open market.
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:59 am to Epic Cajun
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think you're looking like this as if Lonzo is going to strictly play a 3&D role, and if that's the case you would just rather Hart in that role. Which, I could see the argument for if that was the case, but you're ignoring Lonzo's role in transition and his fit with Zion in that role
And SVG said as much in his recent press conference.
Piling on the praise for Lonzo as being arguably the best transition guard in the league with his ability to deliver pinpoint accurate passes down the court and make smart reads.
Which was on top of saying they look to be a transition team, but that basically pace for paces sake is not the goal.
Posted on 12/2/20 at 10:10 am to Bronc
Right I think we'll push hard when we can but then slow it down and run full half court sets if we can't.
I don't think we're going to try to get shots off before 12 seconds left every possession.
I don't think we're going to try to get shots off before 12 seconds left every possession.
Posted on 12/2/20 at 10:55 am to Bronc
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Piling on the praise for Lonzo as being arguably the best transition guard in the league with his ability to deliver pinpoint accurate passes down the court and make smart reads.
He's without a doubt the best when it come to passing in transition, but he's rarely going to finish at the rim unless he sees a wide open lane, which he does at times. Josh Hart is actually a really great finisher as a one man fast break. He's one of the best in the league as well at that.
Both of them are great rebounding gaurds, and with Adams taking up space, it should allow both of them to thrive in those roles again. Getting Zion out in transition and not worrying about rebounding as much is important i think. It's what you saw AD doing a lot with LA, not worrying about rebounding and hustling down the court and posting up to ensure a 1 on 1 he would easily win.
Posted on 12/5/20 at 1:56 pm to Dantheman504
I want to see a run of Zo, BI, Zion, Hayes, and Adams 
Posted on 12/6/20 at 1:09 pm to Dantheman504
man, we are incredibly thin at SF, damn...
Posted on 12/6/20 at 1:18 pm to chRxis
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we are incredibly thin at SF
With so much focus on defense I think we'll see more minutes for Wenyen Gabriel than people are expecting.
Posted on 12/6/20 at 2:34 pm to chRxis
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man, we are incredibly thin at SF, damn...
Ingram, Hart, Gabriel, Thornwell, Zion, NAW
A lot of guys can conceivably play SF, depending on different lineups.
Posted on 12/6/20 at 4:10 pm to GOP_Tiger
Some seem to be obsessed with Hart as only a SG.
We are fine at SF. We are really only thin if you NEEDED Hart to play SG, which we don't.
Also people bitch about him being too small, but then want Lonzo to be a SF. Lonzo is only an inch taller, yet about 20 lbs. lighter.
We are fine at SF. We are really only thin if you NEEDED Hart to play SG, which we don't.
Also people bitch about him being too small, but then want Lonzo to be a SF. Lonzo is only an inch taller, yet about 20 lbs. lighter.
Posted on 12/6/20 at 5:48 pm to bonethug0180
I would not say we are ideal at SF by any stretch. We are workable at best if we can stay healthy.
At least until BI proves he can step up and not need to be hid defensively, or unless the Pels are serious about Zion at the 3 and therefore being the one to match up against Lebron/Butler/Kawhi/George/Middleton/Durant for good chunks of games. But I think that will ultimately only happen very sparingly, if it does at all.
As is, in terms of guys that will actually see meaningful minutes, we have a guy last year that we often hid on defense and Josh Hart, who is not a natural forward defender with his 6’9 wingspan and 215 pound frame. But can do the job for bursts of time if needed. But I think it would be pretty clear that if we had someone like Covington or Reddish on this roster, Hart would almost never match up against small forwards unless it was a switch.
A true 3/4 that can also guard 2’s, playing competently enough to be a positive offensively, is very much a hole on this roster we are going to need to fill. Possibly as a full time starter depending on how it goes with Lonzo and how much(or how little) Ingram can step up defensively.
At least until BI proves he can step up and not need to be hid defensively, or unless the Pels are serious about Zion at the 3 and therefore being the one to match up against Lebron/Butler/Kawhi/George/Middleton/Durant for good chunks of games. But I think that will ultimately only happen very sparingly, if it does at all.
As is, in terms of guys that will actually see meaningful minutes, we have a guy last year that we often hid on defense and Josh Hart, who is not a natural forward defender with his 6’9 wingspan and 215 pound frame. But can do the job for bursts of time if needed. But I think it would be pretty clear that if we had someone like Covington or Reddish on this roster, Hart would almost never match up against small forwards unless it was a switch.
A true 3/4 that can also guard 2’s, playing competently enough to be a positive offensively, is very much a hole on this roster we are going to need to fill. Possibly as a full time starter depending on how it goes with Lonzo and how much(or how little) Ingram can step up defensively.
This post was edited on 12/6/20 at 5:50 pm
Posted on 12/6/20 at 7:15 pm to Bronc
quote:Not ideal. Just okay. Which isn't terrible or no depth either. Just okay.
I would not say we are ideal at SF by any stretch.
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At least until BI proves he can step up and not need to be hid defensively
But he's starting and getting major minutes regardless, so that has zero bearing on the depth.
Otherwise I don't really disagree with much of what you said. But they fact is BI will see at minimum 32 minutes a game at SF (with maybe a little PF unless he and Zion switch way more often). So that's only 16 minutes for the other guy anyway.
This post was edited on 12/6/20 at 7:18 pm
Posted on 12/6/20 at 8:44 pm to brmark70816
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His option is around 5M and the belief was he wasn't going to get much beyond that.
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Hart is making $3.5 this season and his Qualifying Offer next season is $5.2. He will very likely sign an extension in the next 3 weeks or get a new deal next offseason, but the QO is what it is.
Where did you read this about the extension? It think it's possible though, we know what 90% of what Hart is already
This post was edited on 12/6/20 at 8:46 pm
Posted on 12/6/20 at 10:17 pm to Dantheman504
There’s no way of knowing how good Kira and NAW will look. But NAW is surprisingly old and has shown flashes but not consistency. Lonzo has shown me stretches then regression. Kira looks like Coby White to me from the film. Maybe it will come down to who stays healthy. Seems like one guy always gets injured early
This post was edited on 12/6/20 at 10:19 pm
Posted on 12/6/20 at 10:21 pm to Pelicansfan69
From what I've seen of NAW this off-season, his handle is still pretty loose. He was practicing with Dinwiddie, who had a much tighter handle at the same height.
I think he should be used primarily in an off-ball situation
I think he should be used primarily in an off-ball situation
This post was edited on 12/6/20 at 10:23 pm
Posted on 12/7/20 at 7:47 am to Bronc
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A true 3/4 that can also guard 2’s, playing competently enough to be a positive offensively, is very much a hole on this roster we are going to need to fill. Possibly as a full time starter depending on how it goes with Lonzo and how much(or how little) Ingram can step up defensively.
You are very right about this. It might be the biggest hole on our roster.
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