re: Celtics offer predictions

James Harden is a flopper. If it wins games who cares. Smart/Jrue is the best defensive guard combo in the league if that happens

As a Celtics fan, I love reading this. Watching all of this from afar, a lot of folks are way too high on Jaylen and some of the Lakers prospects, and way too low on Smart and that Grizz pick. Put the box scores down and watch the games.

Smart has been a primary factor in winning dozens of games a year for us, for several years in a row. I hope, hope, hope, that we are somehow able to keep him out of a deal. Not only is he just flat out superior to overrated slobs like Kuzma or Rozier (even on his current salary), if I am building a winning team, give me Marcus over fake star prospects like Ingram or Jaylen all day long. More talented, yes, but they just aren't wired to kick arse.

Look at any title or contending team. Far more often than not, you have real stars like AD surrounded with pit bulls like Marcus. You don't see guys like Ingram or Jaylen. Get real stars and not the Walmart version of them. Who cares if they can score 23 a game if it takes them 19 shots and they give up 30 on the other end while contributing nothing else but scoring?

Yes, you are not a contender and looking to tank, but (a) the game done changed with the new lottery odds and sheer number of tanking teams, and (b) you still need a solid culture in place that can develop your top prospects. Otherwise, they will develop bad habits without learning what it takes to win. Just look at the Lakers and Sixers. Not going to get those guys back in the box learning to play the right way at this point.

On a related note, I'm not sure how strong AD's market is really going to be this summer. Do the Knicks really trade Zion at this point? I thought it was a given if they land the #1 pick, KD and Kyrie, now I am not so sure. Barrett or Morant plus Knox and a bunch of scraps? Ehhhhh.

Not saying Boston gets out of this without giving up Tatum and other substantial assets, but IMO Tatum, the Grizz pick and either one of Smart or Jaylen easily beats out anything the Lakers or Knicks can throw at you if Zion isn't on the table.

If it ends up at that point, and you guys have to choose between Smart or Jaylen, I go Smart all day if I am you. He's a leader and a winner.

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Davis is a pussy
just so you know what you are getting

I agree with you on smart vs Brown but smarts salary has to be included in any deal to make it legal...horford would have to opt in for him to be included

so the Celtics can’t wind up with Davis/smart/horford/Hayward
one of the big salary guys has to go or the deal won’t work

by the way, this is why I am really surprised the Celtics did not collect salary at the deadline. They certainly could use it in June...

I said smart, horford OR Hayward
One of the tree has to go

horford would have to opt in so that’s unlikely
Hayward makes 35MM so I doubt the pels want him

so...it will be smart which means the Celtics can’t wind up with all three of those guys plus davis

agree but a three teamer is complicated (or it can be) and this trade has to be simple if it’s going to be agreed to before the draft. I’m not saying it can’t be done but it wouldn’t likely involve players, just moving picks

if it winds up moving 2019 picks for future picks sign me up

Tatum + Smart + Memphis pick + Sac pick is a pretty good package.


I don’t know what we’d move to get another piece. Maybe they flip smart and the Kings pick. Trying to think which team this would make sense for though

I change my original offer to Tatum and Smart only. Maybe 1 pick (lowest one Celtics have)

LeBron, Rich Paul and AD are going to try some BS to devalue anyone other than LA being able to land him. Somehow it will work

Why is everyone hung up on Knox? I don’t get it. I also am becoming more and more concerned by the day Boston wont even be in the AD race. Only chance of that is if they think getting AD is worth gambling on to persuade Kyrie. And that’s a big arse gamble.