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re: Can y’all admit we miss BI
Posted on 4/4/24 at 11:50 am to Pistol44
Posted on 4/4/24 at 11:50 am to Pistol44
quote:I'll ask again, your goal is to win the most possible games.
"The schedule is the biggest reason".
Stop it.
Would you prefer to play the same 5 game schedule we just played with BI, or would you prefer to play the shitty teams we beat up on before BI got hurt but without BI?
Which do you think would net more winning?
Posted on 4/4/24 at 11:52 am to whatiknowsofar
quote:This is true, and there is virtually zero reason to have any healthy level of confidence that Zion will show up for next season any differently. He's played 4 of 5 seasons, he is 0 for 4 in showing up in the shape needs to be for his 1st game of the season.
Zion playing half the season out of shape is what really fricked us. We'd be a top 4 seed if he was in this shape now at the start of the season. Team identity is ironed out sooner, etc.
AGAIN, something that someone who "lives for this competitive shite" would never do once, much less 4 out of the 4 seasons he's played.
quote:While true, it doesn't change the main point. Whether we win 50 or 48 games, if we're the 7th best team in the West, that's a big problem.
Every year is different, this is a historically crazy good conference this year. 45 wins got you the 4 seed last year. This year it puts you in 6-8 seed territory.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 11:57 am to Pels_Yaz
Look I love CJ. I wish he could be a Pel forever. He gets unnecessarily shite on by fans. But I do think Trae instead of CJ will raise the floor of this team. We severely lack a player like Booker who can go off on any given night and get you 35-40
Trae’s 30+ point games this season: 30
CJ’s 30+ point games this season: 6
Now a lot of that is how Willie asks CJ how to play. On nights BI and Z are healthy, he’s asked to be a facilitator and playmaker and have 10-11 shots a game, which isn’t CJ’s fault but Trae is better than CJ in shot making, offense, passing and playmaking. Trae is also averaging 10 assists a game. BI is our leader in assists at 5.8 a game. Don’t get me wrong, CJ is a much better defender than Trae but it’s like arguing Nance and JV…is CJ’s defense THAT much of a net positive with the gap in offensive production that Trae provides? No. And it’s not like Trae would take a significant more shots per game. CJ is averaging between 7-15 shots a game. Trae is averaging only slightly more at 8-19 a game.
Trae’s 30+ point games this season: 30
CJ’s 30+ point games this season: 6
Now a lot of that is how Willie asks CJ how to play. On nights BI and Z are healthy, he’s asked to be a facilitator and playmaker and have 10-11 shots a game, which isn’t CJ’s fault but Trae is better than CJ in shot making, offense, passing and playmaking. Trae is also averaging 10 assists a game. BI is our leader in assists at 5.8 a game. Don’t get me wrong, CJ is a much better defender than Trae but it’s like arguing Nance and JV…is CJ’s defense THAT much of a net positive with the gap in offensive production that Trae provides? No. And it’s not like Trae would take a significant more shots per game. CJ is averaging between 7-15 shots a game. Trae is averaging only slightly more at 8-19 a game.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 11:58 am to shel311
quote:
While true, it doesn't change the main point. Whether we win 50 or 48 games, if we're the 7th best team in the West, that's a big problem.
Lets factor in that the West will get better not worse. The grizzlies, spurs and rockets will ALL be better. Sure a team may drop because of injuries. But if we don’t improve we more than likely we will be left behind.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 12:01 pm to Pels_Yaz
Yep. You almost HAVE to shake things up this offseason. The Kings didn’t make any changes and look where they are. The Mavs made changes and look how better they are because of it.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 12:01 pm to shel311
quote:
Would you prefer to play the same 5 game schedule we just played with BI, or would you prefer to play the shitty teams we beat up on before BI got hurt but without BI?
You still can't get off square, but I'll play. I'd much prefer to have had BI over the past 5. BI playing gives Pels the best chance of competing as contenders. Pels have proven they can beat bad teams with or without BI/Zion all year.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 12:07 pm to WicKed WayZ
quote:That 30 number is actually more 30 point games than BI, CJ and Zion...combined.
Trae’s 30+ point games this season: 30
CJ’s 30+ point games this season: 6
Posted on 4/4/24 at 12:09 pm to Pistol44
quote:You didn't play, you didn't answer my question. You answered a question you made up, not mine.
but I'll play. I'd much prefer to have had BI over the past 5. BI playing gives Pels the best chance of competing as contenders
If your goal was to win the most out of those 5 games, You would have taken the option of no BI against shite teams. I know that, you know that. We don't have to do the song and dance for another page and 5 more posts, We both know which scenario YOU and any other Pels fan thinks would net more wins. This isn't difficult.
This post was edited on 4/4/24 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 4/4/24 at 12:09 pm to WicKed WayZ
quote:exactly. Plus Memphis will be back to being good, rockets will continue to improve, lakers will push hard to find a third star, spurs will acquire better players, etc. we’ll be stuck in nba limbo
Yep. You almost HAVE to shake things up this offseason. The Kings didn’t make any changes and look where they are. The Mavs made changes and look how better they are because of it.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 12:13 pm to shel311
You know what else helps having Trae? When Z comes in out of shape to start the season and you need scoring outside of BI.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 12:15 pm to Macintosh
Ja changed agents.
I almost wonder if he wants out.
I almost wonder if he wants out.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 12:18 pm to 50_Tiger
quote:Ewww
Ja changed agents.
I almost wonder if he wants out.
Welp....frick it

Posted on 4/4/24 at 12:35 pm to shel311
He will want out of Memphis eventually
But I don’t think they’ll trade him anytime soon
But I don’t think they’ll trade him anytime soon
Posted on 4/4/24 at 4:04 pm to shel311
quote:
you didn't answer my question
Don't know how more straightforward I can be
It's ok to be wrong, I get educated on this board all the time. You'd be a better poster if you did as well.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 4:09 pm to Pistol44
quote:You literally answered a question I did not ask, so I'm not sure why you think you're so straight forward when you intentionally avoided my question entirely and still haven't answered it and changed parameters to arrive at your answer. In fact, if we're being honest and rational, you were the complete opposite of straightforward, so there's that.
Don't know how more straightforward I can be
quote:I do that, i'm not wrong here. Please feel free to show me where I was wrong. I can tell you how it'll end if you're being 100% honest, you realizing you were wrong and admitting you didn't answer my question and made up your own. But again, feel free to show me what I said that you proved wrong, because that, by any logical review of these posts, has not happened
It's ok to be wrong, I get educated on this board all the time. You'd be a better poster if you did as well.
I'm a nice guy, I'll go ahead and ask again and provide you that opportunity to answer MY question for the first time.
Your sole goal is to win the most of these 2 sets of games: Last 5 games with BI or cupcake schedule without BI, which are you choosing? You don't get to change the parameters to how good this will make the team in the future, that is not what I asked. You only have 1 goal, win the most of those 5 games, which gives us the best chance to max out winning of those 5 games?
This post was edited on 4/4/24 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 4/4/24 at 4:20 pm to shel311
quote:
Last 5 games with BI
This is what I replied. Gave you my reason too. Pretty simple.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 4:34 pm to Pistol44
quote:Except your reasons had nothing to do with the question, so it made no sense.
This is what I replied. Gave you my reason too. Pretty simple.
You know that, no need to play dumb right now to try and make your point. You know what you did, and you know you did not answer the question I asked, and you changed the parameters to make your point. Again, why the song and dance, feel free to just admit that. It is what factually happened.
ETA: Still waiting for your show me where I was wrong, please show that part.
This post was edited on 4/4/24 at 4:38 pm
Posted on 4/4/24 at 4:45 pm to shel311
quote:
quote: This is what I replied. Gave you my reason too. Pretty simple. Except your reasons had nothing to do with the question, so it made no sense
My guy, feels like I'm chatting with a Bot, I need to talk to a customer representative .....
Posted on 4/4/24 at 4:49 pm to Pistol44
quote:
My guy, feels like I'm chatting with a Bot, I need to talk to a customer representative .....
We can end this with you, as i said by any reasonable or logical conclusion, never having answered my question and instead answered the one you made up.
We'll also end it with you never showing me where I was wrong, despite being clearly wrong about the above.
That's fine. It is what it is. Good talks!
This post was edited on 4/4/24 at 4:51 pm
Posted on 4/4/24 at 6:09 pm to shel311
You can cut the sexual tension with a knife between you two
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