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Brooklyn Nets, the Darkhorse Team to land AD
Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:30 pm
The Scenario
If Kyrie signs elsewhere this offseason, Ainge likely drops out of AD trade talks, or at least removes Tatum from offers - which would level the trade field significantly. Knowing that without Kyrie the chances of AD re-signing there are slim, C's likely pivot to building around Tatum.
That would leave the Knicks as seemingly the only real suitor left of teams with good assets willing to trade them for AD. I think this is where AD is eventually traded to. But what if Knicks land the #1 overall and stand firm on not trading Zion for AD? Or, what if their pick falls to #4 or 5? Suddenly their offer becomes pretty mediocre based around Reddish or Culver as the centerpiece.
Pels rightly stand firm on not trading AD to the Lakers, for a myriad of reasons. And the Clippers offer based around SGA and the future Miami pick isnt that great, and the Pels front office will be determined to trade him out of the Western Conference.
Enter the Brooklyn Nets
Nets are finally back in the playoffs with an exciting young core. They could continue on this path with the group they have, but with lots of cap space this summer, plus potentially more with a Crabbe salary dump -- could this be the year Sean Marks and co. go for the big fish star players? With potentially two max slots or one and D-Russel, they could look to make a big push for contention this offseason as a more competent organization option for stars to be in NY.
Basis of Trade:
AD for
LeVert, J. Allen, 2019 BKN pick, future protected pick.
Caris LeVert as future star
LeVert shines vs. Warriors
LeVert was playing at an All-Star level earlier this season and has shown flashes of brilliance throughout his young career. If his injury history clears and Pels could feel comfortable with it not being an issue, then as a 6'7" versatile playmaker, he's the kind of player thats worthy of being the centerpiece of an AD trade. He only has one year left on his rookie contract, so RFA in the summer of '20, which slightly decreases his value if he's due for a huge contract. But he's a win now and for the future player, imagining him taking turns shredding up defenses next to Jrue is tantilizing indeed.
Jarrett Allen is AD without the drama and with a fro
20pts-24rbds-3blks
Jarrett Allen is still very young with lots of potential, provides the rim-protector / lob-threat role with a low usage and low drama.
Brooklyn would likely add in picks like their own 2019 pick possibly Denver's, and possibly future picks. Adding in a player like Dinwiddie could be a thing, but between Jrue, LeVert and Payton who hopefully re-signs, it may be best to let Nets keep Dinwiddie and instead further compensate through cap relief and picks. Joe Harris could also be included, although he has a team option of 8mil.
Pels could either make Nets absorb AD into their capspace, or provide further compensation to take Crabbe' big expiring contract back. Hill and Moore could be added from Pels'side in variations of the deal.
Pels then re-sign Randle and Payton, maybe Miller and Diallo.
Pels draft BPA and target DeAndre Hunter, ready now all-around SF/PF
Allen / Okafor
Randle / Diallo
Keinrich / Hunter / Miller
LeVert / Moore / Frank J.
Jrue / Payton / Bertans
If Kyrie signs elsewhere this offseason, Ainge likely drops out of AD trade talks, or at least removes Tatum from offers - which would level the trade field significantly. Knowing that without Kyrie the chances of AD re-signing there are slim, C's likely pivot to building around Tatum.
That would leave the Knicks as seemingly the only real suitor left of teams with good assets willing to trade them for AD. I think this is where AD is eventually traded to. But what if Knicks land the #1 overall and stand firm on not trading Zion for AD? Or, what if their pick falls to #4 or 5? Suddenly their offer becomes pretty mediocre based around Reddish or Culver as the centerpiece.
Pels rightly stand firm on not trading AD to the Lakers, for a myriad of reasons. And the Clippers offer based around SGA and the future Miami pick isnt that great, and the Pels front office will be determined to trade him out of the Western Conference.
Enter the Brooklyn Nets
Nets are finally back in the playoffs with an exciting young core. They could continue on this path with the group they have, but with lots of cap space this summer, plus potentially more with a Crabbe salary dump -- could this be the year Sean Marks and co. go for the big fish star players? With potentially two max slots or one and D-Russel, they could look to make a big push for contention this offseason as a more competent organization option for stars to be in NY.
Basis of Trade:
AD for
LeVert, J. Allen, 2019 BKN pick, future protected pick.
Caris LeVert as future star
LeVert shines vs. Warriors
LeVert was playing at an All-Star level earlier this season and has shown flashes of brilliance throughout his young career. If his injury history clears and Pels could feel comfortable with it not being an issue, then as a 6'7" versatile playmaker, he's the kind of player thats worthy of being the centerpiece of an AD trade. He only has one year left on his rookie contract, so RFA in the summer of '20, which slightly decreases his value if he's due for a huge contract. But he's a win now and for the future player, imagining him taking turns shredding up defenses next to Jrue is tantilizing indeed.
Jarrett Allen is AD without the drama and with a fro
20pts-24rbds-3blks
Jarrett Allen is still very young with lots of potential, provides the rim-protector / lob-threat role with a low usage and low drama.
Brooklyn would likely add in picks like their own 2019 pick possibly Denver's, and possibly future picks. Adding in a player like Dinwiddie could be a thing, but between Jrue, LeVert and Payton who hopefully re-signs, it may be best to let Nets keep Dinwiddie and instead further compensate through cap relief and picks. Joe Harris could also be included, although he has a team option of 8mil.
Pels could either make Nets absorb AD into their capspace, or provide further compensation to take Crabbe' big expiring contract back. Hill and Moore could be added from Pels'side in variations of the deal.
Pels then re-sign Randle and Payton, maybe Miller and Diallo.
Pels draft BPA and target DeAndre Hunter, ready now all-around SF/PF
Allen / Okafor
Randle / Diallo
Keinrich / Hunter / Miller
LeVert / Moore / Frank J.
Jrue / Payton / Bertans
This post was edited on 3/6/19 at 12:32 pm
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:43 pm to DLBalla
quote:
AD for
LeVert, J. Allen, 2019 BKN pick, future protected pick.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:47 pm to DLBalla
Is this serious or satire?
Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:49 pm to DLBalla
where did you copy & paste this from?
Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:53 pm to DLBalla
This package has been mentioned before.
If Lavert looked how he did earlier in the season I wouldnt totally dismiss it.
If Lavert looked how he did earlier in the season I wouldnt totally dismiss it.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:59 pm to DLBalla
I think Cleveland could put Love and a 1st and beat this package....
Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:06 pm to Soggymoss
Cleveland would never trade for him
Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:11 pm to LosLobos111
OP has to be a Nets fan, right?
Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:22 pm to DLBalla
I like Jarrett Allen. I think he's gonna be a great player. But that package is so unappealing that I'd be begging the Lakers to trade BI to us instead.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:23 pm to dj30
That’s not enough for Davis.
You want AD the package starts with Russell and picks
You want AD the package starts with Russell and picks
Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:31 pm to DLBalla
It would take 2 teams to pass up the Knicks and even then I would gladly take Barrett/Morant(whoevers left )plus some combo of Knox/Robinson/DSJ and picks over a lakers offer
And the Knicks WILL trade Zion for AD don't kid yourself as Wiggins was traded for Kevin Love
And the Knicks WILL trade Zion for AD don't kid yourself as Wiggins was traded for Kevin Love
Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:31 pm to CocoLoco
Russell is an RFA about to get a near max contract. Makes it tricky to include him in a deal, and you would have to pay him 25-30 mil per year right away. LeVert has the higher potential ceiling, too.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:38 pm to LosLobos111
Knicks pick falling to 2 or 3 would be fine, Barrett and Morant are centerpiece prospects like you said. But it's a very realistic probablity their pick could fall to 4 or 5. Then their best offer is: Reddish or Culver, plus 'meh' prospects like Knox, DSJ, Robinson, all of which LeVert has proven to be a more impactful player at this point, and probably Allen, too.
It's possible Knicks could trade Zion for AD if they get the top pick. But there are scenarios where they would rather keep Zion, like if Zion dominates in March Madness and/or they miss out on signing big name players like KD or Kyrie. Zion is considered a generational talent. Wiggins was the default top pick of a weak draft class, even at the same stages, Zion is a much better prospect than Wiggins was.
It's possible Knicks could trade Zion for AD if they get the top pick. But there are scenarios where they would rather keep Zion, like if Zion dominates in March Madness and/or they miss out on signing big name players like KD or Kyrie. Zion is considered a generational talent. Wiggins was the default top pick of a weak draft class, even at the same stages, Zion is a much better prospect than Wiggins was.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:47 pm to DLBalla
Agreed Zion is a better prospect than Wiggins, but the Knicks would trade him for AD 10/10 without blinking.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:51 pm to DLBalla
Posted on 3/6/19 at 2:05 pm to DLBalla
quote:
LeVert, J. Allen, 2019 BKN pick, future protected pick.
The Lakers offer is 10 X better than this
Posted on 3/6/19 at 2:22 pm to Wes225
To educated NBA fans, LeVert is equal to or better than Ingram. Allen is a better player than Kuzma, in my opinion, but they could be equally valued for some. Lozo Ball has said he doesn't want to play here, and he can't shoot. Dinwiddie could also be in the deal, and he is better or equal to Ball.
Lakers have a better draft pick now that their "good" young players have them out of the playoffs, but Nets have two picks this year. Future picks for both teams are a wash.
Plus, teams are highly motivated to trade their star players out of their conferences, so they don't have to face that player's team on the way to the finals. Plus, the Lakers and the LeBron/Klutch mafioso publicly disrepected the Pelicans in the way they forced this trade demand to try and get to the Lakers, and smeared the Pels franchise on the way. Plus, that's the same city that has the Rams who took the Saints spot in the SuperBowl. Gayle and co. are going to show some pride and take a stand for small market teams, there's no way they are trading AD to the Lakers. And if all that didn't happen, the Lakers young players aren't valued higher than other players and draft picks other teams will offer, as discussed in the beginning of this post.
Lakers have a better draft pick now that their "good" young players have them out of the playoffs, but Nets have two picks this year. Future picks for both teams are a wash.
Plus, teams are highly motivated to trade their star players out of their conferences, so they don't have to face that player's team on the way to the finals. Plus, the Lakers and the LeBron/Klutch mafioso publicly disrepected the Pelicans in the way they forced this trade demand to try and get to the Lakers, and smeared the Pels franchise on the way. Plus, that's the same city that has the Rams who took the Saints spot in the SuperBowl. Gayle and co. are going to show some pride and take a stand for small market teams, there's no way they are trading AD to the Lakers. And if all that didn't happen, the Lakers young players aren't valued higher than other players and draft picks other teams will offer, as discussed in the beginning of this post.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 2:41 pm to DLBalla
LeVert is 24 & coming off a major ankle injury. Plus he's 3 years older than BI and does nothing significantly better than BI.
I agree that Jarrett Allen is better than Kuzma.
There is a decent sized gap between Dinwiddie & Lonzo right now thats no doubt. But he's also 4 years older than Lonzo. Can't argue with Lavar's comments about Lonzo not wanting to be in Nola though
And I think the Pelicans made their stand at the trade deadline but carrying it over to the offseason ends up damaging our reputation. I believe that IF the Lakers have the best offer, there's a good chance a trade is made. Problem is, they won't come close to having the best offer. Bc I'm fairly confident a Celtics trade gets done before free agency which pretty much negates what Kyrie does & that the Knicks will get a top 3 pick
I agree that Jarrett Allen is better than Kuzma.
There is a decent sized gap between Dinwiddie & Lonzo right now thats no doubt. But he's also 4 years older than Lonzo. Can't argue with Lavar's comments about Lonzo not wanting to be in Nola though
And I think the Pelicans made their stand at the trade deadline but carrying it over to the offseason ends up damaging our reputation. I believe that IF the Lakers have the best offer, there's a good chance a trade is made. Problem is, they won't come close to having the best offer. Bc I'm fairly confident a Celtics trade gets done before free agency which pretty much negates what Kyrie does & that the Knicks will get a top 3 pick
This post was edited on 3/6/19 at 2:42 pm
Posted on 3/6/19 at 2:41 pm to DLBalla
quote:
To educated NBA fans, LeVert is equal to or better than Ingram. Allen is a better player than Kuzma, in my opinion, but they could be equally valued for some. Lozo Ball has said he doesn't want to play here, and he can't shoot. Dinwiddie could also be in the deal, and he is better or equal to Ball.
Ingram averages more points, rebounds, and same amount of assists in his career than LeVert. Ingram also has better FG% and 3 PT%. Ingram is also 3 years younger than LeVert. Kuzma and Allen are about equal very different players/positions. Ball could be traded to a third team for a pick. Also I guess you haven't seen Ingram play lately?
Posted on 3/6/19 at 2:58 pm to LosLobos111
I'm not saying they would, and they have nothing I would want, just that they could beat it with the trash they have
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