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re: Anyone still want to talk shite about Lonzo?

Posted on 1/18/20 at 9:50 pm to
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 1/18/20 at 9:50 pm to
quote:

Jj redick says players are more worried about posting On Instagram and looking good


... and there Lonzo is posting pictures of himself after a loss... kinda disappointing


Griffin claims he's the hardest worker on the team. I don't think he'd shite on guys like Jrue and JJ (and the rest of the team) if that was obviously not true.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Posted on 1/18/20 at 10:04 pm to
He still needs to get better with FT but he def needs to be a part of future plans
Posted by Upperdecker
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Posted on 1/18/20 at 10:32 pm to
quote:

Griffin claims he's the hardest worker on the team.

Interesting he doesn’t name JJ, who came in as a vet to teach the players how to win and be professionals, and claims on his podcasts that none of them want to be mentored and they all just play on Instagram. You’d think that guy would be the hardest worker. I think JJ ain’t what the fan base believed he is
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
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Posted on 1/18/20 at 10:36 pm to
quote:


Jj redick says players are more worried about posting On Instagram and looking good


... and there Lonzo is posting pictures of himself after a loss... kinda disappointing


Are you not a pro-Lonzo guy?
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 1/18/20 at 10:38 pm to
New Zo is legit. Park his arse in the gym and make him shoot 200 FTs a day during the summer.
This post was edited on 1/18/20 at 10:38 pm
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 1/18/20 at 10:45 pm to
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would be nice for him to get his FT% up


it would change his life.

He never shot 70% at any level.
Around 50% for the season.
Up from last year 47%.

Turrble.

So yes, i would not have him on my team if we choose up sides.

Why have a guy be pg who is worse at ft than shaq and wilt?
Liability with game on the line.

This post was edited on 1/18/20 at 10:46 pm
Posted by P bean
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Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 1/19/20 at 12:56 am to
He’s had the best 10 game stretch of his career putting up 16/9/7. Better than his season average of 12/6/6, and career averages etc.

But its still 10 games.
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 1/19/20 at 7:43 am to
Pels should trade him while his stock is high

Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 1/19/20 at 8:02 am to
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and claims on his podcasts that none of them want to be mentored and they all just play on Instagram.


You should probably give that pod another listen
Posted by Bronc
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Posted on 1/19/20 at 8:40 am to
Realistically, Lonzo’s future in New Orleans is going to be determined on how he looks with Zion. I’m personally still not sold for a number of reasons but think he is trending in the right direction.

I do think if we keep him people are going to need to pick some loyalties in the Jrue/Lonzo/Favors game though. As that core is likely not going to be able to optimally thrive in a Gentry system(or any system in the modern NBA) that has seen its resurgence thanks in part to a decision to emphasis three point shooting in lineups. 4 average to below average shooters and a reluctant but good three point shooter is not gonna work.

If Lonzo does look like he has a future next to Zion, I think the odd man out is probably Jrue.

And I think an ideal target would be Bradley Beal. Who I think is not long for Washington after this season. And besides OKC, we have the most enticing asset pool to offer. It would probably require helping Jrue land somewhere better with a third team, but I think if people are sold on Lonzo, what he, Zion, Ingram, and Favors/Hayes will need is someone like Beal.
This post was edited on 1/19/20 at 8:59 am
Posted by Milesahead
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Posted on 1/19/20 at 9:15 am to
I know Beal has long been a popular player on this board.

LINK

His shooting percentage has fallen 3 straight years; he shoots 31% from 3 this year. He isnt elevating his team to victory; their 3 best wins came with him on bench.

I am not saying he cant work here but I am not sure he is the slam dunk many view him to be. We would lose assets and tie up a decent bit of salary for his services.

Ideally, I think we sign good value/character vets in FA or make good value trades for them. We bank on BI and Zion being our 2 stars and we develop Jax, NAW, Ball, and whoever we draft going forward to be our core. IF we can develop through the draft, we have a much more manageable cap to work with.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 1/19/20 at 9:25 am to
Shite about lonzo

Selecting only the past five games, lonzo ball ft percentage in each and all was 0. He made no ft in any of those five.

3 games. none attempted.
2 games. 0 for 1, 0 for 2.

Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 9:25 am to
Of course it has fallen three straight years, the team has progressively gotten more and more terrible.

At this point he is the only player defenses have to key in on.

It would be the equivalent of looking at Ingram’s performance against the Celtics, 4-15, when so many players were out and the D could focus on him, and claiming BI won’t get better when he gets help.

Does anyone not think that if a guy like Beal was playing on this team, in this system, with guys like BI, Zion, and Reddick helping draw defenses away that he wouldn’t look like the Beal we knew when he himself had that sort of talent supporting him?

But I’m not all in on Beal, but if people are wanting to build around Zion/Ingram/Lonzo/Hayes(Favors possibly as well), Jrue probably has to be exchanged for someone that fills the holes of where that core’s deficiencies are, and that would be spacing the floor, generating offense for yourself in the half court, and solid perimeter defense(I know Beals numbers this year are bad, but I’ll take the career sample of him being solid over the numbers coming from an abysmal team).
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 9:42 am to
Deal lonzo for wall, as is.
Washington pays half (whatever it takes to move him) walls salary.

Im too in love with jrue to deal him for beal.
Id need to get back someone for current 3 pt marksmanship.
Galinari or Aldridge were suggested above.




Posted by Milesahead
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 1/19/20 at 9:46 am to
Galinari or Aldrige either one places someone on the bench. To bench Favors before we even see how he and Zion play together would be a big mistake in my mind.

Your Wall for Ball idea is a new one to me. While it could be a title type move, I think it has a better chance of hurting our team.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 10:09 am to
quote:

Your Wall for Ball idea is a new one to me. While it could be a title type move, I think it has a better chance of hurting our team


yes its risky.

If he makes it back, its great.
If not, you lose ball for nothing but i am dead certain ball cannot play in a close playoff game.
Bizarrely bad ft shooter will be at the line.
Id rather hope wall heals up.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
32676 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 12:54 pm to
So Lonzo missed 3 FTs in a row? Big deal. FTs can be improved easily. He focused his 3 pt shot this offseason and looks a lot better with it. Next should be his FT%. He can do it
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 1:03 pm to
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Lonzo missed 3 FTs in a row? Big deal


not in a row. Over a span of five games he only got to the line three times.
Wanna know why?
He knows if he does take it to the hole he could be fouled and he will likely as not miss .

This 0 for 5 games is symptomatic of a failed case. Shooting 200 times in bad form just repeats the error.

He coulda, shoulda reworked his ft shot long ago.

Ive said my piece.
I wont beat a dead horse.

Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 1/19/20 at 1:13 pm to
Coulda shoulda fixed his 3 pt shooting too:
.309 > .329 > .356
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/19/20 at 1:14 pm to
quote:

Jj redick says players are more worried about posting On Instagram and looking good


... and there Lonzo is posting pictures of himself after a loss... kinda disappointing


fricking fake news bitch. You obviously didn’t listen to the actual podcast. He said that in the context of how refreshing this team is because most other young players do that.

But keep being you, you little negative bitch
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