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re: Any possible way we can make a move for Steven Adams?
Posted on 11/26/20 at 3:23 am to Pelefraan 1
Posted on 11/26/20 at 3:23 am to Pelefraan 1
Negative in the fact we weren't going to play Hill. That's $10 mil wasting on the bench.
Posted on 11/26/20 at 3:26 am to bonethug0180
Why have you changed your argument? There's nothing about Hill that makes him a negative asset.
We could play him 0 minutes a game or 48, he's still absolutely desirable on the market at his tiny contract with what he produces.
And I've pointed out why your assessment of Miller is incorrect as well. Do you do any research at all.
Batting 0.000 right now, only way is up my guy
We could play him 0 minutes a game or 48, he's still absolutely desirable on the market at his tiny contract with what he produces.
And I've pointed out why your assessment of Miller is incorrect as well. Do you do any research at all.
Batting 0.000 right now, only way is up my guy
This post was edited on 11/26/20 at 3:34 am
Posted on 11/26/20 at 3:35 am to Pelefraan 1
Changed my argument? I haven't. Hill is a negative asset for us because we wouldn't have played him.
Perhaps maybe not to best phrase to use I guess, but the point I'm making was keeping him was a negative, yet you list it like it was some big loss getting rid of him. We NEEDED to trade him and Miller. And we did. Just like we needed to dump those 2nds.
We didn't need to dump the 3 fringe players, but again they are fringe players.
So the point still stands we basically gave up junk and 1 role player for a starting center.
Edit:
Also you rave about his 3 pt % last year, but don't realize how up and down his % has been his whole career. Ball had a better % last year than many of his years.
And to go further on that, he was only making 1.4 a game. So that amazing 3 pt stroke only equated to about 4.5 pts a game. But I'm sure everyone was clamoring for a 34 year old getting under 10 pts. and only 3 assist a game making 10 mil.
Perhaps maybe not to best phrase to use I guess, but the point I'm making was keeping him was a negative, yet you list it like it was some big loss getting rid of him. We NEEDED to trade him and Miller. And we did. Just like we needed to dump those 2nds.
We didn't need to dump the 3 fringe players, but again they are fringe players.
So the point still stands we basically gave up junk and 1 role player for a starting center.
Edit:
Also you rave about his 3 pt % last year, but don't realize how up and down his % has been his whole career. Ball had a better % last year than many of his years.
And to go further on that, he was only making 1.4 a game. So that amazing 3 pt stroke only equated to about 4.5 pts a game. But I'm sure everyone was clamoring for a 34 year old getting under 10 pts. and only 3 assist a game making 10 mil.
This post was edited on 11/26/20 at 3:42 am
Posted on 11/26/20 at 3:46 am to bonethug0180
quote:
Hill is a negative asset for us because we wouldn't have played him.
1. We absolutely would have played Hill. But, he had to go anyway because of not going into tax. This brings me to your absurd assessment of Hill.
2. You don't understand what an asset means in the context of a basketball roster. It doesn't mean how many minutes we might give him on said night . It means his value on the open market. Hill would bring back value in a trade. That's not a negative asset.
3. Miller wasn't guaranteed, he could have been dropped off completely if we didn't find a trade or guarantee him. We didn't NEED to find a trade for him. As I said, do your research, or you keep making ridiculous statements like this.
I'm not one to say keep taking those Ls
This post was edited on 11/26/20 at 4:22 am
Posted on 11/26/20 at 3:47 am to Pelefraan 1
Still missing the whole of the point trying to find nits to pick.
We gave up mostly junk for a starting center.
We gave up mostly junk for a starting center.
Posted on 11/26/20 at 3:50 am to bonethug0180
No, we overpaid taking everything into consideration. Everything has opportunity costs.
I overpaid too
I overpaid too
This post was edited on 11/26/20 at 4:15 am
Posted on 11/26/20 at 4:26 am to Pelefraan 1
There was no vision for Hill on this roster.
We have multiple ball handlers on this team.
I think you’re off by referring to Hill as an asset because he’s still a solid NBA player.
I think if you were to view him strictly a “resource” or a “means to an end” you would understand the trade better.
P.S.
Hill was never here.
We have multiple ball handlers on this team.
I think you’re off by referring to Hill as an asset because he’s still a solid NBA player.
I think if you were to view him strictly a “resource” or a “means to an end” you would understand the trade better.
P.S.
Hill was never here.
Posted on 11/26/20 at 4:36 am to Don Pel
Forget Hill
It's all the picks we gave up that I think is egregious (combined with Hill)
It's all the picks we gave up that I think is egregious (combined with Hill)
This post was edited on 11/26/20 at 4:37 am
Posted on 11/26/20 at 4:36 am to Pelefraan 1
quote:
do your research, or you keep making ridiculous statements like this.
Coming from the guy who said this is going to be Adams’ age 28 season when he will play this entire upcoming season as a 27 year old and also said his mpg make Giannis look like a freshman, yet they came into the league the same year, and Giannis has played ~3,000 more total minutes than him... Quality research
This post was edited on 11/26/20 at 4:40 am
Posted on 11/26/20 at 4:40 am to BigTimer23
Obviously I was exaggerating about him playing more minutes than Giannis as a pure numerical figure.
Fact remains he has a shite tonne of mileage on him and it is a legitimate concern. He's not referred to as the oldest 27 year old in the NBA for nothing. He's been way more banged than Giannis has over his tenure playing centre, he may as well have played twice the minutes.
Ok, I'll eat the L on the age thing. Doesn't really change shite though
Fact remains he has a shite tonne of mileage on him and it is a legitimate concern. He's not referred to as the oldest 27 year old in the NBA for nothing. He's been way more banged than Giannis has over his tenure playing centre, he may as well have played twice the minutes.
Ok, I'll eat the L on the age thing. Doesn't really change shite though
This post was edited on 11/26/20 at 4:44 am
Posted on 11/26/20 at 4:47 am to Pelefraan 1
quote:
Ok, I'll eat the L on the age thing. Doesn't really change shite though
It’s just laughable that you would be the one to say “do your research, or you keep making ridiculous statements like this”, when you fail to do the most basic research.
Also there’s a difference between exaggeration and factual inaccuracy. It’s not as if Adams has played more minutes than Giannis, but it was close, so you exaggerate how much more he’s played. That would be an exaggeration. In reality, your point was just completely inaccurate.
This post was edited on 11/26/20 at 4:51 am
Posted on 11/26/20 at 4:49 am to BigTimer23
He turns 28 the day the season ends.
It has no bearing on anything. I mixed up June and July. Terribad basketball knowledge
Saying we need to trade Miller when he's not even guaranteed this season
I think Hellen Keller can figure that one out
It has no bearing on anything. I mixed up June and July. Terribad basketball knowledge
Saying we need to trade Miller when he's not even guaranteed this season
I think Hellen Keller can figure that one out
This post was edited on 11/26/20 at 4:52 am
Posted on 11/26/20 at 4:53 am to BigTimer23
quote:
Also there’s a difference between exaggeration and factual inaccuracy. It’s not as if Adams has played more minutes than Giannis, but it was close, so you exaggerate how much more he’s played. That would be an exaggeration. In reality, your point was just completely inaccurate.
It was a reference to how much of a pummelling Adams has taken over his tenure.
If you interpolated that into Giannis years it would be very similar
This post was edited on 11/26/20 at 4:57 am
Posted on 11/26/20 at 4:57 am to Pelefraan 1
He turns 28 before a possible Game 7 of the NBA Finals, long after the Pelicans will be done. And again, the bearing is that you’re telling other people to do their research, and you’re going around trying to “correct” other people incorrectly without having done the smallest amount of “research”
Posted on 11/26/20 at 4:59 am to BigTimer23
Draw and quarter me please
I'm not making roster assertions based on completely faulty research
I'll leave that to the Bucks GM
I'm not making roster assertions based on completely faulty research
I'll leave that to the Bucks GM
This post was edited on 11/26/20 at 5:03 am
Posted on 11/26/20 at 5:03 am to Pelefraan 1
Lol I’m not draw and quartering you because of a year. I’m laughing at the idea that you could miss something so basic by clearly not even doing a simple google search, but then on the other hand tell people to “do their research or keep making ridiculous statements like this and taking these L’s” (which I noticed you’ve edited since I pointed it out). Sorry, the hypocrisy was just too good to not address.
This post was edited on 11/26/20 at 5:07 am
Posted on 11/26/20 at 5:07 am to BigTimer23
As you said, he turns 28 before the season ends
It's a fair say it's his year 28 season
If that's your worst criticism of me because of semantics, then so be it
It's a fair say it's his year 28 season
If that's your worst criticism of me because of semantics, then so be it
This post was edited on 11/26/20 at 5:09 am
Posted on 11/26/20 at 5:09 am to Pelefraan 1
quote:
It's a fair say its his year 28 season
Are you serious?... Now I’m just thinking you’re a pathetic troll
This post was edited on 11/26/20 at 5:10 am
Posted on 11/26/20 at 5:10 am to BigTimer23
Do you have anything better to do than argue with me about semantics?
Posted on 11/26/20 at 5:13 am to Pelefraan 1
It appears you don’t know what semantics means. Let me be very clear. The Pelicans 2021 basketball season will be over before Steven Adams turns 28 years older. Unless of course you’re telling me right now the Pelicans will be playing in the NBA Finals.
This post was edited on 11/26/20 at 5:18 am
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