re: Am I the dumb arse ??

Half is generous. Maybe 3-5 guys on this board watch these games nowadays.

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To be frank, none of you know what you’re talking about in regards to trading Zion

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And you do? I consume a lot of NBA media and see it over and over. So whatever you are seeing is obviously much different than me. Care to divulge your sources?

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Yall have no idea how to articulate how trading Zion will make the Pels a winning organization other than “fat man bad”, “you have battered wife syndrome.” Yall are pathetic.

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Dude, we are not winning now. We haven't won anything of significance since he's been here. It's been 6 years. I don't have to prove anything cause this shite ain't working.

We have to try something else. You can't start anew without letting go of the old. Let's start with this..

What do you honestly think that Zion will do next year? What will he be? How will he play? What poisiton? How many games? Can he lead?

That is 6 simple questions. None of us have any idea. If I asked you that a year ago, how far off would you have been?

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His health is a complete toss-up (and I'm not saying that it's entirely his fault), and because of it we're stuck in purgatory trying to field a winning team around a perennial question mark

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Perfectly stated.

I see a good chunk on this board back to believing in this dude again. Almost SIX years later. He will NEVER be healthy long term and he will only bounce back slower and slower with age. It’s never as easy to recover as it is in your early 20s.

True definition of insanity.

Hey sports fans!!! We all want to win, we're all disappointed in what happened this season. Again, it's so frustrating because we really do not know how good, or bad this team is. If we had a crystal ball, and we knew Zion would be healthy the entire season I believe everyone would want to keep him. I would only trade Zion if Griffin could get winning players in return. I'm sure Griffin feels the same way, but if we get Flagg, then I would trade Zion even for a little less than his worth. Make the deal. I feel this team is very close to winning 45 to 52 games next year if they're healthy. With Flagg 55 wins !! Remember, I may be the dumb are.

Bottom line is Zion is fool’s gold. We need to make him someone else’s “but next year when he’s healthy” pip dream

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I’ll just say this. You would have to be an absolute moron to break the team up without firing Willie first and seeing if a different coach can get something out of the squad. Now the firing Willie thing should have happened a few years ago and before we traded BI, but it is what it is at this point.

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We had a lot of coaches. None move the needle to any great significance. We are going to win around 20 games this year. No coach would have got this team to the playoffs (top 6 seed). That would have been something like a 30 game swing. I don't think there is a coach worth 10 games.

Green has not been good and it's easy to justify him being fired, especially if the culture has turned toxic. But I don't agree with making him the scapegoat. This is a bad team with a bad base. It doesn't fit and it was not grown organically. Shortcuts usually don't work..